
Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay
The Ringer
Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay dissect the biggest topics in Black culture, politics, and sports. Two times per week, they will wade into the most important and timely conversations, frequently inviting guests on the podcast and occasionally debating each other.
Location:
United States
Genres:
Arts & Culture Podcasts
Networks:
The Ringer
Description:
Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay dissect the biggest topics in Black culture, politics, and sports. Two times per week, they will wade into the most important and timely conversations, frequently inviting guests on the podcast and occasionally debating each other.
Language:
English
Website:
https://theringer.com
Episodes
Therapy and the History of Child Support With TK Kirkland
4/1/2025
Van and Rachel discuss YG’s new single, "2004," and conversations about male survivors of sexual assault (1:15), and the White House Correspondents Dinner (9:07) before comedian and podcaster TK Kirkland joins to talk everything from Donald Trump’s road to the White House (24:59) to domestic violence, mental health (38:32), and touring with N.W.A in the late ’80s (1:04:44). Plus, TK’s thoughts on child support (1:11:14) and Mo’Nique’s beef with Tyler Perry (1:20:46). Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Terence TK Kirkland Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith National Sexual Assault Hotline: https://rainn.org/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:01:48:58
The LeBron–Stephen A. Feud, “Governor Hot Wheels,” and the Trump Administration’s Big Oopsie
3/28/2025
Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay start the episode by discussing the discourse around Van’s idea of a top BBL city, and then they change direction with a chat about the characteristics behind “BDE” (04:27). Then, they get into the simmering Stephen A. Smith and LeBron James feud (08:55) and the accidental adding of The Atlantic’s editor in chief to the Trump administration’s war plans group chat (35:10). They also ask the question, “What happened to Mark Robinson?” (1:03:05) Later, Trick Daddy gives his intriguing dating preferences (1:06:07). Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Van's dog, Boseman Producers: Donnie Beacham and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:01:32:02
Jonathan Majors, ‘Snow White’ and Box Office Controversy
3/25/2025
Van and Rachel remember the life of George Foreman (19:32) before discussing Jonathan Majors’s latest film, ‘Magazine Dreams’ (29:06), and the controversy surrounding Disney’s ‘Snow White’ (48:01). Then they react to the lawsuits against Marcellus Wiley detailing accounts of rape and sexual assault (1:00:31). Then Van explains why he’ll redo his list of the top five Black cities while addressing income inequality (1:20:56), and is Jayden Daniels’s mom going too far (1:38:36)? Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:01:52:34
Jess Hilarious, 'The Breakfast Club,' and Erasing Jackie Robinson
3/21/2025
Van and Rachel recap Jess Hilarious's airing out of 'Breakfast Club' grievances online and on air (7:32), before reacting to the erasure of Jackie Robinson and other military heroes in the name of getting rid of DEI (27:41). Plus, Van has a Kanye West theory (1:11:14) and gives his top five Black cities (1:21:21). Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:01:40:20
Kanye, Kim and Celebrity Parenthood. Plus, Van Learns About Neo-Soul
3/18/2025
Van and Rachel give a review of Playboi Carti’s latest album, ‘Music’ (7:19), before reacting to Kanye West and Kim Kardashian butting heads over a new song featuring Diddy and their daughter (17:22), and Anthony Mackie’s backlash for comments on masculinity (38:45). Then, Congress and Trump avoid shutting down the government (56:10), and Rachel addresses the tragedy of domestic violence (1:12:05) before Ian Von, host of ‘Let’s Talk R&B,’ joins to school Van on neo-soul (1:17:37). Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:01:40:19
A Doechii Discussion and What Exactly Is an Industry Plant?
3/14/2025
Van and Rachel react to questions about Doechii after she was invited onstage at a Lauryn Hill concert (12:35), Lil Yachty calls Black Lives Matter a "literal scam" (31:37), and Tucker Carlson touts the genetics of his people (45:10). Then a philosophical discussion on morality and religion: Can you have one without the other (57:44)? Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:01:29:53
Five Things the Democrats Can Do, Plus Doechii Pisses Off Straight Men
3/11/2025
Van and Rachel remember the life of D’Wayne Wiggins and the impact of Tony! Toni! Toné! (:37), before Van breaks down five things Democrats can do to win back voters (11:01), Gavin Newsom calls trans athletes in women’s sports unfair (45:51), and Dana White welcomes Andrew Tate with open arms (1:02:19). Plus, Doechii’s dating red flag had some men upset (1:14:10), LeBron confronts Stephen A. Smith (1:22:55), and Dr. Umar has a social media spat with his daughter (1:36:33). Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:01:56:52
Trump’s Tariff War and Democrats Sing on the Floor
3/7/2025
Van and Rachel reflect on the life and career of Roy Ayers (1:40) and discuss Trump’s tariffs on Canada, Mexico, and China (7:22). Then, Washington bureau chief for The Economist Idrees Kahloon joins to break down the economic strategy of the tariffs (28:26). Plus, Democrats protest through song (52:52), Ben Shapiro calls for a pardon of Derek Chauvin (1:08:52), and a young man dies while pledging Omega Psi Phi (1:14:00). Finally, Rachel names her top five interracial couples (1:29:01) and Sherri Shepherd has thoughts on revealing clothes (1:36:48). Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Idrees Kahloon Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:01:52:36
An Oscars Recap, and Talking ‘Opus’ With Mark Anthony Green
3/4/2025
Van and Rachel remember the life and career of Angie Stone (00:34) before reacting to the Oscars (2:36), and Van has thoughts on a Conan hip-hop joke (4:20). Then, a discussion of the lawsuit against Jay-Z being dropped (18:25), before filmmaker Mark Anthony Green joins to talk about his directorial debut, ‘Opus’ (42:22) and Ayo Edebiri’s star power (1:01:35). Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Mark Anthony Green Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:01:40:52
The End of Medicaid? Plus, the Me Too Movement in 2025
2/28/2025
Van and Rachel discuss the life and death of Gene Hackman (4:55), before reacting to the GOP budget bill that could cause major cuts to Medicaid and have ripple effects for Medicare (10:13) before welcoming CNN journalist Omar Jimenez to discuss the White House moving to pick the pool reporters who cover Trump (36:42). Plus, Me Too founder Tarana Burke discusses where the movement stands in 2025 (59:47). Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guests: Omar Jimenez and Tarana Burke Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:01:36:54
Van at Super Bowl Radio Row Pt. 2
2/21/2025
Van’s radio row adventures continue, as he welcomes Pacman Jones and Evan Rosenblum to discuss 'The Pacman Jones Show' (0:00). Then he welcomes Carolina Panthers beat writer Sheena Quick (19:13) and NFL draft prospect Tetairoa McMillan (28:58). Plus, Bears wide receiver Rome Odunze (34:20) and Steelers legend Joey Porter (40:20) join the show. Host: Van Lathan Guests: Pacman Jones, Evan Rosenblum, Sheena Quick, Tetairoa McMillan, Rome Odunze and Joey Porter Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr., Cory McConnell, Chia Hao Tat, and Ronak Nair Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:00:58:36
Van at Super Bowl Radio Row Pt. 1
2/18/2025
While at Super Bowl LIX radio row, Van sat down with the likes of Cowboys legend Emmitt Smith (0:00), LSU great Andrew Whitworth (14:20), and a pair of legendary Saints Deuce McCallister (24:49, and Demario Davis (35:58). Host: Van Lathan Guests: Emmitt Smith, Andrew Whitworth, Deuce McCallister, Demario Davis Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr., Cory McConnell, Chia Hao Tat, and Ronak Nair Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:00:53:16
President Elon, and Healthy Arrogance With Will Packer
2/14/2025
Van and Rachel discuss Elon Musk and Donald Trump’s plans for the federal government (19:28), and the potential end of New York City Mayor Eric Adams’s legal troubles (41:54). Then, a reaction to John Leguizamo’s Crip-walking claims (1:11:48), before film producer Will Packer joins the discuss his new book, ‘Who Better Than You?’ (1:19:50). Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Will Packer Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:01:57:03
Kendrick Lamar’s Televised Revolution and Ben Watkins Talks Alex Cross
2/11/2025
Van and Rachel react to the Super Bowl (0:00) before giving their reviews of Kendrick Lamar’s halftime show (14:42). Then, Kanye West is regrettably in the news again (31:35), and Trump signs an order in solidarity with white South Africans (45:10). Finally, the showrunner of Prime Video’s ‘Cross,’ Ben Watkins, joins to discuss Aldis Hodge’s star power (55:51) and his thoughts on him possibly being the next Black Panther (1:08:37). Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Ben Watkins Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:01:25:56
Marc Lamont Hill on Trump’s Vision for Gaza, and DEI in the NFL
2/7/2025
Van and Rachel react to the death of Murder Inc. founder Irv Gotti (10:46), before discussing the NFL removing "End Racism" from the end zones at the Super Bowl (15:00), and Dennis Schröder compares NBA trades to modern slavery (32:30). Then, Dr. Marc Lamont Hill is back to talk about Donald Trump’s plan to take over Gaza (38:22), and resurfaced tweets has Van guessing the N-word count of Saquon Barkley’s fiancée (1:13:06). Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Dr. Marc Lamont Hill Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:01:29:01
The Historic 67th Grammys, the Luka Trade, and a Tariff War
2/4/2025
Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay start today’s episode by talking about the historic wins, controversial moments, and surprises from the 67th Grammys (05:21). Senior staff writer and fellow podcaster Justin Charity joins to give his opinion on the Grammys before discussing his Ringer podcast on the Kendrick-Drake beef culminating in Kendrick’s Super Bowl performance (27:46 ). Later, we talk with ‘Real Ones’ host Logan Murdock about the shocking NBA trade news (46:18). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:01:33:25
DEI Did It, Plus ‘How to Sell Out’ and the Future of AI
1/31/2025
Van and Rachel discuss the midair collision that killed 67 people (1:00) before reacting to Donald Trump pointing the finger at DEI initiatives (10:05). Plus, DJ Akademiks gets banned from Twitch after inappropriate comments toward a minor (20:51), and Scott Storch’s ex gets accused of racism after saying racist things (32:49). Then writer and podcaster Chad Sanders joins to talk authenticity and his new book, ‘How to Sell Out’ (38:14), before journalist Nathan Bomey from Axios explains DeepSeek and the future of AI (1:06:02). Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guests: Chad Sanders and Nathan Bomey Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:01:31:33
Boycotts, Target and Tabitha Brown, Plus Snoop Speaks
1/28/2025
Van and Rachel react to the death of DJ Unk (6:04), before discussing Tabitha Brown’s response to a call to boycott Target for ending DEI programs (15:40) and the Air Force’s choice to walk back a decision to end the use of a Tuskegee Airmen video from basic training (42:11). Then, Snoop Dogg responds to criticism for performing at a Trump inauguration event (57:03), Raven-Symoné speaks on racial identity (1:15:15), and Trump’s actions toward Colombia spark a debate on American supremacy (1:27:36). Plus the Michael Jackson biopic goes through major reshoots (1:39:11). Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:01:51:45
Trump, Nazis, and Leonardo DiCaprio’s N-Word Count
1/25/2025
Van and Rachel react to President Trump’s executive orders (11:35) before welcoming assistant professor of law at Washington and Lee Maureen Edobor to dig into their legal and moral implications (22:33). Then Elon Musk salutes in a very Third Reich-ish kinda way (49:31 ), Sexyy Red apologizes to Bernice King (1:05:12), and Jamie Foxx discusses Leonardo DiCaprio’s discomfort with the N-word (1:15:50) Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guests: Maureen Edobor Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:01:28:19
Hip-Hop, MLK, and Trump’s Second Inauguration
1/21/2025
Van and Rachel open the show with Coach Prime, a.k.a. impressionist Sam Croker (8:38), before welcoming the chairman of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, Ben Wikler, to discuss plans should he become chair of the DNC (27:43), and re-energizing the Democratic Party (33:12). Then, in-the-moment reactions to Donald Trump’s inauguration (1:02:10), and digging into Nelly, Snoop, Rick Ross, and Soulja Boy’s participation (1:14:55). Plus, Byron Donalds calls Trump ‘daddy’ (1:42:30). Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guests: Sam Croker and Ben Wikler Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:01:58:29