The Sales Evangelist

Sometimes it's better to break the script and listen to what your client is saying when trying to close a deal. In today’s episode, I chatted with Christian Jack, founder of the Sales Dojo and a master of influence, about why it’s important for sellers to understand the psychology of persuasion. He breaks down how the human mind works when sellers become too pushy and how agents can overcome this challenge. Meet Christian Jack Christian Jack is a highly respected sales coach and growth consultant with a proven ability to scale businesses to multiple eight figures. He provides fractional CRO services, one-on-one coaching, and tailored sales training that empower professionals and entrepreneurs to achieve sustainable growth. His practical, personalized approach enables clients to maximize their influence, boost performance, and achieve long-term Sales Is All About Connecting The Dots You want to be a top-performing agent, but to get there, you need to understand that it’s not about meeting goals or persuading someone to make a decision. Sales is about helping prospects connect the dots and showing them that you’re the right person to help them. Three points can help prospects connect the dots before you try to persuade them: verbal communication, non-verbal communication, and listening to get them to open up. Verbal Communication Comes Last You may think that people convey verbal messages first; however, this is far from the truth. Christian breaks down how the human mind conveys verbal communication last due to its two subsets. He also explains how the social mask works when it comes to how we communicate our words to others. Non-Verbal Communication Comes First Do a quick search online for images of mammalian and reptilian brains. Pay attention to the neocortex, or frontal lobe, of each, and you'll notice that the reptilian brain is all about survival. However, the mammalian brain is all about processing information. Of course, the human brain has a larger frontal lobe than other mammals, and this is why we process non-verbal communication first. Christian shares how you can use this in a sales context to better convey your message to prospective customers. Listening To Get Customers To Open Up Have you ever had a customer who wouldn't open up no matter how much you tried? This may be because they feel unsafe around sales representatives due to a past experience. Christian shares how breaking the regular sales script and listening to what the customer has to say can help them stop being closed off with you. “When you become more successful in sales, you realize that it's not really about sales. It's not about persuading someone else. It's about helping them connect the dots and being someone who can help them do that.” - Christian Jack. Resources Christian’s special gift Get in touch with Christian on Facebook Sponsorship Offers This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot. With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales. 2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn. Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse. 3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation. Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin. Credits As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ...

Staying curious is one of the top skills a sales professional must have in order to succeed in this industry. But why is it so important? My guest, Denise Murtha Bachmann, a sales coach and founder of the Sellovatorz programs, is here to tell you about it in this episode. She's going to share how to flawlessly conduct a discovery call and get to the root cause of a problem to help close a deal. Meet Denise Murtha Bachmann Denise Murtha Bachmann is a sales strategist, coach, and fractional sales leader who helps businesses humanize their sales approach while leveraging AI for smarter selling. With a deep focus on relationships, curiosity, and uncovering the probable root cause, she empowers sales teams and founders to build predictable pipelines and close more deals with authenticity. Through her Sellovatorz programs Denise is redefining modern sales by balancing cutting-edge technology with the human touch buyers demand. Take a Step Back and Slow Down Most sellers try to rush through the sales process to hurry up and close the deal. However, Denise shares that it's better to slow down and ask prospects questions to learn their root problem. Prospective buyers know they have a problem and want a solution to it. But if sellers take the time to help them identify the root cause of the problem, prospects will realize that money isn’t a problem when it comes to fixing it. When you give them the ability to see that you’re trying to solve the bigger problem, you build a connection with them, which builds trust and credibility with your clients. Working together will help them see that you care about them and make them want to continue through the sales process. Prepare Yourself Before The Call Denise shares that before you jump on a call with a client, you should take the time to educate yourself about them. Here are some things you can do before your discovery call: Have your discovery questions ready. Decide on the difference between a good call and a great call. Understand the client you’re looking at: What is their problem and buyer persona? You can use AI tools to help you study your client better. Sales Process Role-Playing Denise and I do some sales role-playing of a startup company competing for the SMB space against HubSpot. I act as the founder, and she guides me through the process by asking questions to help me understand my root problem and how I can compete in this competitive industry. For sales leaders, Denise shares the biggest takeaway to help you determine the root cause for prospects: Lead with a mindset that you have to slow down to speed up. Let go of the metrics and focus on quality over quantity to meet sales goals. "I think that as leaders and sales representatives, we're constantly on the go because we have metrics to meet. However, in today's sales environment, we need to let go of those metrics and focus on quality over quantity." - Denise Murtha Bachmann. Resources Get in touch with Denise on LinkedIn Sellovatorz Sponsorship Offers This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot. With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales. 2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn. Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse. 3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation. Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin. Credits As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or ...

Hey, hey, hey! I’m back on the road again and here in Dallas celebrating the Sales Kick-Off Season. While here, questions on multi-threading kept popping up, so I’m here to share the four characteristics you must know about your prospects to help you out with this sales challenge. Also, don’t forget to reach out to me on LinkedIn! Individual’s Title Yeah, I know, a pretty obvious thing to know about your prospect. But it’s so important to know this because each individual you’re dealing with must be able to move a deal forward in the pipeline. If their job role is unable to do this, then you’re not talking to the right person. Look at their LinkedIn profile or ask other individuals within the organization to learn more about their title. Know Their Responsibilities Sometimes a job title can mean nothing, and a person can just be filling a specific role until the right person comes along. If you’re getting nowhere from learning about an individual’s job title, learn what their responsibilities are within an organization. I like to use ChatGPT to learn more about a person’s job responsibilities. This can give you an idea if they’re the right person to speak to about moving forward with your offer. How Do They Influence the Deal? You have to sit back and think about how this person influences a deal you’re trying to make with the organization. I provide an example of how you can figure this out and use this to your advantage. How Do They Help the Organization Make Money? If they know how to bring money into the company, then they’re more than likely the ones who can make a deal move forward. For example, a marketing director might bring in money for the company because they’re attracting customers to the organization and tracking a KPI on conversion. “If you know these four things while multi-threading on the prospects you’re going after, it’s going to help you fine-tune your message toward the right individual and make sure the deal progresses properly.” - Donald Kelly. Resources Do you need help creating a podcast? Visit Bluë Mango Studios Connect and chat with me on LinkedIn Join my Sales Mastermind Class to start booking more appointments! Sponsorship Offers This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot. With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales. 2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn. Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse. 3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation. Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin. Credits As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

No, guys, this episode has nothing to do with you switching professions and becoming an auctioneer. However, you will learn four core principles from the industry that will help you become a better sales professional. My guest, Dia Bondi, leadership communication coach and author of Ask Like an Auctioneer, is going to share how to articulate the offers you bring to your clients in a unique way. Also, don’t forget to download the hidden gems she shares at the bottom of these show notes. Meet Dia Bondi Dia has an exciting background as a leadership communications coach with over 20 years of experience. She has worked on high-profile projects, including helping Rio de Janeiro win the bid to host the 2016 Olympics. With a unique love and hobby for fundraising auctioneering she became inspired to write the book "Ask Like an Auctioneer," which focuses on making impactful asks. Paddle Through The No Auctioneers have a tendency to speak fast, or maybe they’re just good at doing a special chant. The chant they do allows them to keep going until they get a final bid, the highest offer. If you paid attention, the auctioneers are paddling through each offer until they are able to maximize the initial offer. Importance of Value Another core principle of auctioneers is not defining an offer based on the price. The price is to show the value of the product and how individuals can see that value. You may find it hard to ask for a higher price because you’re unable to get the prospect to see the value of what you’re offering. Get them to see the worth of your offer, and they’ll be ready to spend whatever amount you’re asking for. Connect with Prospects with Storytelling Part of your job as a seller is to understand what they really care about to help solve their problem. Just like an auctioneer, use storytelling to help you practice empathy and connect with prospects on an emotional level. ZOFO: Zone of Freaking Out You know that heart-wrenching feeling you get when you’re about to go into a meeting and the fear of rejection starts to creep in. Dia says it's ZOFO, or the Zone of Freaking Out. She shares how to handle this feeling and to keep pushing so you don't mishandle a deal. “Price is not a way for you to define your own worth. Price is a way to see and understand what they value and how they value it. Not a way to define our own worth and worthiness.” - Dia Bondi. Resources Sales Evangelist Listeners Hidden Gems Dia Bondi on LinkedIn Sponsorship Offers This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot. With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales. 2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn. Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse. 3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation. Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin. Credits As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

LinkedIn Sales Navigator is a handy tool to help you find prospects, but if you’re not using it right, you won’t be able to target the ones who have the say in closing a deal. How can you learn to use it to get in touch with C-suite executives? Find out in this episode with my guests Mike and John Murphy, the father-and-son duo of Text Tonality, and learn their three-step strategy for using LinkedIn. Where Did Their Passion for LinkedIn Come From? After struggling to find new clients, John turned to his son Mike for help. Mike had a unique strategy that helped his father find high-stakes clients in no time. Thanks to Mike’s method, he and his father are now the proud owners of Text Tonality. Understanding What Filters Are When you first use LinkedIn Sales Navigator, you’ll notice the many different filters within the tool. Mike noticed that people usually use the filters incorrectly in two different ways: either using too many or not enough filters. There are a certain number of filters you can use to help you find the right clients. If you DM Mike, he gives you the code to his free training to help you learn this trick. What To Say to C-Suite Executives When You Find Them John shares that to get your message out correctly, you first have to position yourself in front of them. They have to see how you can help them with their problem. If you can’t get them to see this, then they’re not going to spend 30 minutes on the phone with you. Start with the big problem they have to intrigue them with a solution. Sending LinkedIn Messages Without Spamming John and Mike share that it’s best not to send messages within LinkedIn connections. They share how sending Text Tonality messages works better after waiting a day after sending a connection request. Mike also shares how probing can help get prospects to speak to you more after they say no thank you to your first message. If you’re struggling with LinkedIn Sales Navigator, consider working with John and Mike at Text Tonality to learn more of their secrets. “Don't be afraid to follow up. People won’t get mad at you. They don't mind as long as you do it right." - John Murphy. "You want to think about how there is an element of numbers to this. A key performance indicator that we look for is a 25% acceptance rate, which means I'm targeting the right people and my profile is resonating." - Mike Murphy. Resources Learn more LinkedIn secrets at Text Tonality Connect with John and Mike on LinkedIn Don’t forget about the Sales Navigator Secrets Code: wealth24 Sponsorship Offers This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot. With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales. 2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn. Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse. 3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation. Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin. Credits As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

You're having a wonderful time speaking with a prospect and believe they're going to take the deal. But when you go in to offer it, they quickly shut you down with the most disappointing sales objection: "not interested." Instead of tackling the objection with different common sales methods, try this unique strategy that I share in this episode. What is the Go Around The Block Principle? Inspired by one of my trips, I created this concept to help tackle a sales objection that most reps seem to struggle with the most. The idea is for you to prepare before the meeting by doing research on the prospect. You can use what you learn about the prospect to help connect with them better before pitching the deal again. Deflect the Sales Objection I share a short story on how I used a prospect's area code to help build a better connection with them before closing a deal. Of course, you won't always get this lucky, but try going on their LinkedIn profile to see if you can find a specific person, job role, or content they share to bring up during the meeting. Get the prospect to talk about something they're interested in; they will be more likely to hear your offer again. "Your job right now is to have conversations. The more conversations you have, the more opportunity you have to get the person to listen." - Donald Kelly Resources Looking for a new Sales Coaching Software, try out Ambition Do you need help creating a podcast? Visit Bluë Mango Studios Connect and chat with me on LinkedIn Sponsorship Offers This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot. With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales. 2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn. Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse. 3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation. Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin. Credits As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

You can always get the best sales secrets from the top companies in the industry. In this episode, I’m chatting with Josh Garrison, the Vice President of Apollo.io, about the top three sales practices you must stop doing in 2025. Even if you don’t use this sales enablement AI platform, these tips will help you boost your performance and close deals faster. Meet Josh Garrison Josh Garrison oversees product growth, content marketing, and customer education at Apollo.io. He has 15 years of experience founding companies, leading teams, and writing the bestselling book Outbound Sales. As a two-time founder, he created the “full-cycle selling” framework to share a proven approach to B2B sales. Only Let AI Do Some of the Work Are you still making the mistake of using AI to do all your work? If you haven’t realized it yet, people want a human touch, and too much AI can damage their trust in a company. Josh shares that it’s better to use AI for specific tasks. For example, AI tools have gotten better at research and summarization. Use the information from your research to personalize emails and connect with customers. Diversify Your Outreach If you’re still relying solely on email for outreach, Josh suggests adjusting the timing of your emails and not limiting them to one specific part of the day. Pay attention to your prospect's daily routine. If they’re busy parents, it might not be a good idea to send emails at 8 a.m. Instead, try sending them later in the day when they have downtime. Use Social Media the Right Way Josh advises using social engagement strategically, particularly by commenting on LinkedIn posts. Also, social listening can help you build a presence and establish expertise without overtly selling. "Incorporating AI in a way that makes sense. Having IT do things that are going to level up your outreach, but not necessarily having IT do everything for you." - Josh Garrison. Resources Josh Garrison on LinkedIn Email: josh.garrison@apollo.io Apollo.io Outbound Sales by Josh Garrison Sponsorship Offers This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot. With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales. 2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn. Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse. 3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation. Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin. Credits As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

You want to move your deals through the pipeline, but you have no idea how to do it. In this episode, I had the pleasure of chatting with Bob Spina, a successful sales expert known for building and advising high-performing sales teams, on deal acceleration. Join us to hear his strategies on how to slow down and achieve greater success. Meet Bob Spina Bob is well-known for working with Gong and scaled it from under 21 million in revenue to the empire they are today. His focus lies in enhancing revenue processes and strategies, offering his expertise across various companies to drive successful outcomes. Currently, Bob is dedicated to advising company leaders, sharing his deep knowledge of accelerating deals and navigating multi-stakeholder environments. The Importance of Focusing and Understanding the Industry We discuss the necessity for sales reps to go beyond tool training and understand the industry trends and challenges faced by their target markets. Having business acumen and understanding what's on the minds of C-level executives gives salespeople a consultative edge, establishing credibility and accelerating deals. The Power of Relevance and Relationship Building Understanding your customer's industry and delivering relevant information can set you apart from competitors who rely on generic, automated messages. Authenticity and personal experiences, not just AI, should be at the forefront of sales interactions. Multi-Channel Communication Utilizing a multi-channel approach is key to accelerating deals. Bob shares the importance of connecting with prospects through a combination of LinkedIn, phone calls, emails, and personalized video messages. This approach helps in nurturing leads through the pipeline effectively. Sales Advice From Bob Spina For Leaders: Measure teams on outcomes rather than just activities. Focus on quality connections and work backward to define key activities. For Reps: Be mindful of time and focus on high-impact activities. Do thorough research to ensure every action moves the needle forward. “When you study the industry and you study the people that are in that industry, you want to make sure that you're meeting them where they're going.” - Bob Spina. Resources Bob Spina on LinkedIn Email: bspina@gmail.com Sponsorship Offers This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot. With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales. 2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn. Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse. 3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation. Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin. Credits As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Is it possible to get multiple appointments on LinkedIn in just one week? Guys, I'm telling you that it is, and in this episode, I'm going to show you how I got eight appointments in five days. I promise it's no influencer trick and has everything to do with prospecting. Take a look at your LinkedIn Connections Go through your LinkedIn connection list and group them into potential customers, past customers, and people you know but don't know what you do. For the ones grouped in "people you know," try booking a 5-7 minute meeting by doing the most simple thing: ask permission to ask a question. Appointment Influencers Past coworkers could be your connection to getting appointments for a specific organization. You may have to set up an appointment with them, but at least they can probably influence a deal for you. Look for Partners Sometimes you have to provide opportunities to others to help you set appointments. I share how I did this with a recruiting firm and some of my sales reps. If you give to others, they will be more willing to give to you. Post LinkedIn Polls Creating LinkedIn polls on an industry issue and responding to those who engaged with it is a great way to find prospective clients. They're telling you what their problem is, and you can use this to your advantage. Shoot them a question to start a conversation and see if you're able to set an appointment. "You guys get to hear from me all the time, but I never get to hear from you. I want to hear from you! Connect with me on LinkedIn, and I'll be happy to answer questions or even help you out with these tips." - Donald Kelly. Resources LinkedIn Prospecting Course Sales Mastermind Group Sponsorship Offers This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot. With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales. 2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn. Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse. 3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation. Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin. Credits As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

While working with a fellow sales rep, I noticed the many phone calls he was making and how many of them weren't turning into appointments. Does this often happen to you? In this episode, I show you how to fix this common sales mistake and turn those phone calls into deals. If you'd like to try my tips, connect with me on LinkedIn and send me a message. Have The Right Offer You’re getting connections, but it’s just not going the way you want it to. To change this, start with having the right offer to provide to your prospects. You know you have a tailored offer when some sales team members are getting appointments. Articulate The Message Thanks to my speech debate days, I tend to speak fast. I’m sure you noticed on this podcast. But when dealing with prospects, I slow down to help articulate the offer value to them. You can practice this with someone not in the sales industry to see if it makes sense to them. Stop Rushing Phone calls are not a race to the finish line, so don’t rush your prospects off. Take the time to help them see the value of your sales offer. If you’re a part of my Sales Mastermind group then you know that one of the things I teach sales reps is to ask permission to ask questions! Be calm and collected to slow the conversation down, ask the question if the prospect lets you, and get them to understand the offer value before you let them go. “If you discover the cure for cancer, there’s no way on this beautiful Earth that you’re going to sit down and tell people about it. You’re going to find ways to get the message out there. If you believe in your offer so much, don’t rush to get off the phone. 9 times out of 10 people say they’re not interested because they didn’t listen to the offer.” - Donald Kelly. Resources Sell It Like A Mango Sales Mastermind Group Sponsorship Offers This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot. With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales. 2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn. Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse. 3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation. Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin. Credits As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

I’m being like Edgar Allan Poe in this episode and providing you guys with my top five sales predictions for 2025. Will there be an increased use of AI tools in the sales industry? Are consumers wanting more human connection? Tune in to find out! Sales Prediction 1: Increased AI Technology Use Yes, it’s true. AI tools are not going anywhere, and more than likely, you’re going to use them more and more this year. You’ll probably even find yourself not even realizing that you’re using them. The downside is that 55% of consumers don’t like for companies to rely so heavily on AI technology. They believe it lacks authenticity and transparency. So, keep this in mind when you’re sending your automated cold emails to prospective customers. Sales Prediction 3: Old-School Networking Is Winning I also share another statistic on how AI-generated content provides a negative brand image. What’s the point of using it if your audience is going to see it as a bad thing? This is when old-school sales methods come into play: networking. Get your face out there and attend networking events. Those within the Boomers, Millennials, and Gen X can spot AI content from a mile away. Humans want connection, and if you’re not providing that in some way, then you’re going to lose business. What are my sales predictions 2, 4, and 5? I gave you a teaser of some of my predictions in these show notes. To learn the rest, you’re going to have to click the play button to find out. “82% of attendees express a preference for attending an in-person event, underscoring the value of face-to-face interaction. That piece is showing us that AI will cause us to miss big opportunities.” - Donald Kelly. Resources The Sales Evangelist Sales Planner Cold Call Openers The Sales Evangelizers Facebook Group Sales Mastermind Group Sponsorship Offers This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot. With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales. 2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn. Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse. 3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation. Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin. Credits As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

How can you optimize your pipeline to ensure accurate forecasting and set your team up for success? Join me and my guest, Walter Crosby, as we explore how transforming ineffective habits can lead to better outcomes in your sales process. By the end of this episode, you’ll gain clarity on your pipeline and learn to identify which prospects are most likely to deliver the results you need. Meet Walter Crosby Walter Crosby is a seasoned sales expert and business consultant with decades of experience in helping organizations refine their sales processes and drive sustainable growth. He specializes in developing tailored strategies that align sales pipelines with business goals. His expertise lies in sales leadership, process optimization, and revenue forecasting. Accuracy in Sales Forecasting Walter shares actionable tips for creating accurate sales forecasts. The key takeaway? Quality over quantity. Learn how to identify realistic opportunities and focus on meaningful data, ensuring your forecasts are reliable and actionable. Gatekeeping: Building the Right Pipeline Your pipeline is only as good as what you let in. Walter introduces the concept of a "gate" for qualifying potential leads before they enter your sales process. This ensures you’re targeting the right prospects, saving time, and increasing conversion rates. Planning for Contingencies Unexpected challenges are inevitable, but how prepared are you? Walter discusses how to incorporate contingency planning into your pipeline strategy to mitigate risks and keep deals moving forward. Mindfulness for Precise Sales Forecasting Precision requires discipline. Walter explains how adopting a mindful approach to pipeline management and forecasting can lead to higher win rates and better decision-making at every stage of the sales process. "The pipeline is wrong because we’re not qualifying these people in advance. We are putting in too much junk. We don’t have, you know, St. Peter at the gate, right? Or a Doberman, something. We’re letting any and everybody come through." - Walter Crosby. Resources Walter Crosby on LinkedIn Scale Your Sales by Walter Crosby Sponsorship Offers This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot. With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales. 2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn. Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse. 3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation. Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin. Credits As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Happy New Year! Let’s kick off 2025 with some sales tactics in this episode. Today, I’m sharing ten key insights from my experience coaching and consulting sales teams in 2024. Here’s five of them below, tune in to learn the rest of my sales tips! Find Your Ideal ICP Are you still working with different types of clients and struggling to figure out which one is the right fit for your business? It’s time to double down and define your Ideal Customer Profile (ICP). Focus on what works and identify the best individuals who can buy from you. This will help you stop spinning in circles and spreading yourself too thin. Also, create social media content tailored to this ICP to bring them to you. Cold Calls Still Work Don’t listen to those who say cold calling doesn’t work, because it does. You need to spend more time on this sales outreach method. I share an interesting story with one of my classes about how cold calling still gets results. If you stay consistent, you’ll see success. So, don’t abandon it! Get Social You probably realize how important it is to have social media accounts, especially LinkedIn. You don’t need to do the latest TikTok dances, but you should share educational content. Also, make sure you’re engaging with your audience by responding to their questions in different online forums. This can create conversations that’ll bring opportunities. Fewer Tools Equal Better Results Many sales tools have overlapping capabilities. To save money and boost productivity, limit the number of tools you use. You’ll be surprised at how much this can help. Events Are Back Good events will bring in prospects, while bad ones will waste your time. To choose which events are worth attending, think about your ICP. Knowing where they’re active will make your life much easier. “The key thing you need to do is focus on prospecting more than you think you need to – Donald Kelly.” Resources Evabot TSE Episode 1553 with Darren Reinke Sponsorship Offers This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot. With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales. 2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn. Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse. 3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation. Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin. Credits As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

If you don’t build trust with your customers, you’ll never close a deal—there’s no way around it! You’ve already heard how companies can build customer trust, but how can an individual seller do this? Join me and my guest, Liesl Nel, in this live coaching session as we share strategies to help your prospects feel safe and confident in doing business with you. Meet Liesl Nel Liesl Nel is a seasoned sales professional in the yachting industry, specializing in working with charter agencies, particularly in the Mediterranean region. Her expertise lies in navigating the complexities of B2B sales and addressing the unique challenges within this niche market. Building Open Relationships Liesl emphasizes the importance of maintaining open and frequent communication with agencies. This helps address challenges proactively and assures agencies that customer data will enhance rather than compromise the customer experience. She also shares how face-to-face interactions are better for building trust instead of email marketing. Storytelling and Customer Reviews Using stories and customer reviews to demonstrate repeat business and successful partnerships can significantly build trust. Liesl suggests leveraging third-party success stories to reassure new prospects. Authenticity and Honesty Liesl advises sales leaders to coach their teams on being authentic and transparent. Acknowledging and addressing problems openly fosters a collaborative and trustworthy environment. "I always tell my sales agents to be authentic. Don't hide any problems. If we're having a problem, admit to our B2B customers we're having this problem. We're going to solve it for you. We're going to work together on it versus there is no problem. Be open, honest, and vulnerable. People understand that things do go wrong, but we are going to fix it and we want to continue our relationship." - Liesl Nel. Resources Liesl Nel on LinkedIn Moorings.com Sunsail.com Sponsorship Offers This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot. With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn. Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation. Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin. Credits As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Sometimes, we make the sales process harder than it needs to be. If common sales methods aren’t working for you, check out this episode with my friend and guest, Gail Kasper. She shares how going above and beyond—like overnighting an apple pie—can convince a prospective buyer to do business with you. And don’t forget to check the resource section for a freebie! (No, it’s not a free apple pie.) Meet Gail Kasper Gail Kasper, a Master Sales Trainer and author of Unstoppable and Sell Like A Cockatoo, is renowned for customizing sales programs that boost revenues and revitalize even seasoned sales teams. With experience working with Fortune 500 companies, she sets the gold standard in sales training. As a seasoned TV host, Gail has shared her strategies on leading podcasts and local affiliates nationwide. Why Another Sales Book? With countless sales books out there, why did Gail write another one? Because so many people enter sales roles without understanding what to expect. Gail shares innovative methods to help new sales reps stand out and guide buyers through the sales process to close deals. She also emphasizes the importance of getting back into networking and making phone calls to build human connections with buyers and other sellers. Cockatoo Selling: What Is It? Cockatoos build momentum during their dancing routines, moving their body language and tone in sync to capture their mate’s attention. Similarly, successful sellers must build momentum with their prospects, taking time to connect and avoiding the rush to close a deal. Building strong relationships leads to long-term partnerships and opportunities to ask for referrals down the line. The Role of Questioning During the discovery phase, effective questioning is vital for building rapport and closing deals. Gail explains that asking thoughtful questions keeps potential customers engaged and fosters trust. By understanding a customer’s unique challenges and goals, you position yourself as a problem-solver—not just a vendor. “Put everything aside and just be present with the customer. That is going to get you closer and faster to a deal than if you're worried about all these other things and you're not present with that customer. Get to being present. You can find you to close more deals faster.” - Gail Kasper. Resources Gail Kasper on LinkedIn Gail Kasper Free Gift Sell Like a Cockatoo Sponsorship Offers This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot. With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn. Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation. Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin. Credits As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Just because you’re talking to a customer doesn’t mean you’re the only one making an offer. So, how do you stand out in a niche-specific market when there are so many competitors vying for your buyers? In this episode, I sit down with Pinar Erzin, Co-founder of Most Sailing, to discuss how startup companies can differentiate themselves in niche markets. Meet Pinar Erzin Pinar is the co-founder of Most Sailing, a company specializing in the luxury yacht charter industry. Her role focuses on building meaningful relationships with clients and standing out in a competitive, relationship-driven market. In our conversation, Pinar shares the challenges and lessons she’s learned in creating a unique value proposition in such a specialized field. Together, we explore strategies for building lasting client relationships, standing out from the competition, and adding value beyond price to succeed in niche markets. The Power of Relationships Success in niche industries often hinges on trust and personal connections. Pinar shares that attending events like MMCAS Summit and the International Charter Expo helps build rapport with industry peers and clients. Differentiation Beyond Discounts While price often takes center stage, true differentiation comes from delivering consistent value and exceptional service. Pinar believes it’s better to invest in high-quality experiences and personalized communication to form long-term client partnerships. Creative Marketing Approaches Instead of overloading your prospects with generic sales emails, provide valuable content that addresses their challenges. This could be industry tips or case studies. Showcase your unique value through social media, virtual yacht tours, or spotlighting partnerships with booking agents. Acknowledge partners’ contributions through awards or personalized gestures like handwritten notes. “Forget about talking about yourself and start thinking about your clients. What can you do to make their life better?” – Pinar Erzin. Resources MostSailing Pinar Erzin on LinkedIn Sponsorship Offers This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot. With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales. 2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn. Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse. 3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation. Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin. Credits As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.

Trust is everything in the customer service industry. It’s not only essential for sellers to be trustworthy; businesses must also strive to build trust with their customers. If you’re unsure on how to create strong customer relationships, tune in to my guest, Martina Hršak, as she shares actionable insights on trust-building skills. Growing Up in Croatia and Entering the Yachting Industry During her youth in Croatia, Martina never imagined herself in the yacht business due to her tendency to get seasick. Yet today, she leads MMK Systems, a company that provides the Booking Manager System, the leading software for yacht charter businesses worldwide. The Importance of Trust in Sales To build a successful business relationship in B2B sales, customers must trust the companies they’re buying from. Martina shares how businesses trust MMK Systems with their critical data, such as personal information and finances. Key factors that can easily destroy trust in any industry include: Misleading statistics or facts Data misuse Conflicts of interest (e.g., mergers or acquisitions within the industry) Businesses that mishandle these factors and fail to build trust with their buyers are unlikely to succeed. Martina discusses how building trust and creating true partnerships can be simple. For example, her team attends 20 boat shows annually and regularly visits clients to foster strong, long-lasting relationships. Sales as Advising: Listening Over Selling Martina explains MMK Systems’ unique sales approach: they focus on advising rather than hard selling. Her team members are selected not for their sales experience but for their ability to listen, understand client needs, and offer meaningful solutions. She believes listening is a skill that cannot be easily taught and is crucial for building long-term relationships. “In any sales, trust is important because if clients don’t trust you, they more than likely won’t buy anything from you.” - Martina Hršak. Resources Connect with Martina on Website LinkedIn Email Sponsorship Offers This episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot. With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales. 2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn. Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse. 3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation. Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin. Credits As one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey. We’d love for you to join us for our next episodes by tuning in on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or Spotify. Audio provided by Free SFX, Soundstripe, and Bensound. Other songs used in the episodes are as follows: The Organ Grinder written by Bradley Jay Hill, performed by Bright Seed, and Produced by Brightseed and Hill.