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The Rich Eisen Show

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The Rich Eisen Show mixes sports analysis with pop culture, humor and interviews. The show attracts the most recognizable names including Tom Brady, Matt Damon, Jodie Foster, Matthew McConaughey, Regina King, Aaron Rodgers and Morgan Freeman. Now in its sixth year, the Emmy-nominated show originates out of Los Angeles, airing weekdays Noon-3pm ET/9am-Noon PT on SiriusXM and the Roku Channel. As Eisen said, “After all these years of seeing TV add ten pounds, I’m hoping phones and tablets will only add five.”

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The Rich Eisen Show mixes sports analysis with pop culture, humor and interviews. The show attracts the most recognizable names including Tom Brady, Matt Damon, Jodie Foster, Matthew McConaughey, Regina King, Aaron Rodgers and Morgan Freeman. Now in its sixth year, the Emmy-nominated show originates out of Los Angeles, airing weekdays Noon-3pm ET/9am-Noon PT on SiriusXM and the Roku Channel. As Eisen said, “After all these years of seeing TV add ten pounds, I’m hoping phones and tablets will only add five.”

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English


Episodes
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DeMarcus Ware: I Think Jason Witten Can Coach The Dallas Cowboys

1/23/2025
1/23/25 - Hour 3 Pro Football Hall of Famer DeMarcus Ware and Rich discuss his upcoming episode of ‘NFL Icons’ on MGM+, the longevity of Bills LB Von Miller, why Jason Witten would be a great hire as the Dallas Cowboys next head coach, and more. Rich and the guys react to the list of finalists for the NFL’s 2024 season awards including a debate on who should take home MVP honors. Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:54:59

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Bill Cowher: No One Is More Frustrated How The Steelers Season Ended Than Mike Tomlin

1/23/2025
1/23/25 - Hour 2 Rich trolls TJ Jefferson about the Cowboys taking a backseat to the Commanders this season and is joined in by one of TJ’s friends from home who calls into the show. Pro Football Hall of Famer/CBS Sports analyst Bill Cowher and Rich discuss the keys to who wins the Buffalo Bills vs Kansas City Chiefs AFC Championship Game, how Commanders QB Jayden Daniels’ rookie season compares to the first year of former Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger, Mike Tomlin’s long-term future in Pittsburgh and more. Rich and the guys react to the 2025 Baseball Hall of Fame class that featured Ichiro Suzuki falling one vote shy of unanimous enshrinement in Cooperstown. Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:57:51

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It Is Amazing What Jayden Daniels Has Accomplished

1/23/2025
1/23/25 - Hour 1 Rich recaps the unprecedented season of Commander QB Jayden Daniels who’s led Washington to the cusp of a Super Bowl berth as a rookie, and breaks out his NFL Power rankings to list the top 10 players who will have the biggest impact on the AFC and NFC Championship Games this Sunday. Rich and Brockman compare their divergent experiences in their first visit to the Clippers new high-tech arena. Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:57:54

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No Contest Wrestling: WWE Intercontinental Champion Bron Breakker

1/22/2025
Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 -------- O’Shea and TJ discuss who will be fighting in the upcoming WWE Royal Rumble before Bron Breakker joins the show to talk about how growing up in a wrestling family propelled him from the gridiron to becoming a WWE Superstar. Bron describes the hardest spear he’s ever thrown, his time with Baron Corbin as tag team partners, and how he pays homage to his family name while creating his own legacy. Also, we put Bron on the spot by asking him our NCW staple questions, which 4 wrestlers he would pick to help him fight 50 dudes in a bar, what moment in wrestling broke his heart as a fan, and what was his “welcome to professional wrestling” moment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:53:33

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The Jets Need To Let Aaron Glenn Do His Thing

1/22/2025
1/22/25 - Hour 3 Rich weighs in on the Jets hiring Detroit Lions Defensive Coordinator Aaron Glenn as their new head coach, and ponders the impact on the Detroit Lions who have lost their top assistant coaches over the past two days. Actor Chase Stokes joins Rich in-studio to discuss his new ‘Valiant One’ film, reveals how he went from overaggressive hockey player to starring in ‘Outer Banks,’ and more. Rich and the guys react to Patrick Mahomes’ comments addressing rampant conspiracy theories that the Chiefs are getting preferential treatment from NFL officials. Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:52:14

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Bruce Feldman: The Best Team Won The College Football Championship

1/22/2025
1/22/25 - Hour 2 Rich and the guys react to new Chicago Bears head coach Ben Johnson’s introductory press conference. FOX Sports/The Athletic’s CFB Insider Bruce Feldman and Rich discuss the threats made to Ohio State head coach Ryan Day and his family following the Buckeyes’ loss to Michigan this season, OSU’s chances to repeat as national champions, the evolution of Jayden Daniels from erratic Arizona State freshman to leading the Commanders to a possible Super Bowl berth, what change to the 12-team CFP format would could see next season, and the chances Deion Sanders leaves Colorado for the Dallas Cowboys. Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:57:41

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Albert Breer: The Jones Family Love Kellen Moore

1/22/2025
1/22/25 - Hour 1 Rich and the guys preview the AFC and NFC Championship Games and debate which two teams among the Chiefs, Bills, Eagles and Commanders they want to see face off in Super Bowl LIX. Sports Illustrated’s Albert Breer, an Ohio State alum, and Rich, a Michigan alum, discuss the Buckeyes winning their 9thcollege football national championship, if Deion Sanders or Eagles OC Kellen Moore is more likely to become the Dallas Cowboys next head coach, Tom Brady’s role in hiring the Raiders new HC, why Ben Johnson chose the Chicago Bears, the health of Philadelphia Eagles QB Jalen Hurts, and what we can expect from the latest Josh Allen vs Patrick Mahomes playoffs showdown. Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:57:54

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What The Football w/ Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: Rich Eisen

1/21/2025
Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 -------- Now that Ben Johnson has been hired by the Chicago Bears, Rich joins the show to discuss who will go where next. Could the NFL see a return of Pete Carroll as the Raiders Head Coach and how would it work? Would Deion Sanders be a good fit in Dallas with Jerry Jones? Amy recalls when she interviewed Bill Belichick and recommended him to Al Davis for the head coaching job back when the Raiders hired Jon Gruden. Plus, Amy tells a story about former Washington owner Daniel Snyder you won’t believe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:52:03

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Mike Pereira: The Refs are in the Chiefs' pocket is an absolute myth

1/21/2025
Chiefs DE George Karlaftis and Rich discuss KC’s latest trip to the AFC Championship Game to face Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills thanks to his 3-sack day against the Texans, says what it’s like to go up against Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce in practice every day, and more. FOX Sports NFL Rules Expert Mike Pereira joins Rich in-studio where he shoots down the latest controversy and conspiracy theories surrounding the Chiefs and NFL officiating, says if we can expect the NFL to expand ‘Replay Assist’ next season, reacts to the naming of the Super Bowl LIX officiating crew, and reveals which head coach he dreaded hearing from on Monday mornings when he was the head of all NFL officials. Longtime fan of the show Jeff in Detroit calls in in the wake of the Lions’ early playoffs exit after earning the NFC’s top seed. Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:55:03

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The 12 Team College Football Playoff Needs Tweaks

1/21/2025
Actor Chris Sullivan joins Rich in-studio to discuss his new Steven Soderbergh horror movie ‘Presence,’ reveals his favorite moments from his time on the beloved drama ‘This Is Us,’ discusses the challenges of parenting two kids under the age of four, and more. An Ohio State fan calls in to voice his displeasure with Ryan Day despite the head coach leading the Buckeyes to a national championship this season, and the guys debate how to fix some of the issues that plagued the College Football Playoff in the first year of its 12-team format. In ‘Overreaction Tuesday’ Rich weighs in on Ohio State’s national championship, Travis Kelce, the Lions’ title window, Commanders head coach Dan Quinn, Ben Johnson to the Bears, and more. Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:56:55

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Ben Johnson is the guy you want to connect with Caleb Williams

1/21/2025
Michigan alum Rich weighs in on the Wolverines’ archrival Ohio State staving off a late Notre Dame rally in the College Football Playoff title game to win the Buckeye’s 7th national championship. Rich and the guys react to the Bears luring Lions Offensive Coordinator Ben Johnson to Chicago to be their new head coach and discuss what he’ll mean to the development of QB Caleb Williams. Rich revisits Saquon Barkley’s 205-yard game in the Eagles’ Divisional Round win over the Rams. Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:57:52

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College Football Championship Game Predictions

1/20/2025
1/20/25 - Hour 3 Rich reacts to the NFC’s top-seeded Detroit Lions’ early playoff exit, and the Chiefs advancing to the AFC Championship game for what seems like the millionth consecutive year. Rich breaks down Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens’ late rally against the Buffalo Bills falling short and snuffing out their hopes of advancing to the AFC Championship Game to face the Kansas City Chiefs, and weighs in on the NFL future of Matthew Stafford after the Rams’ late rally also came up short against the Philadelphia Eagles. Rich and the guys predict the final score for the College Football Playoff national championship game. Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:54:20

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Mark Schlereth: It's Fair To Criticize Lamar Jackson And Jared Goff

1/20/2025
1/20/25 - Hour 2 Rich reacts to Saquon Barkley running roughshod over the Rams once again to send the Eagles to the NFC Championship Game after a furious 4th quarter rally by L.A. come up short in the game’s final seconds. FOX Sports’ NFL analyst Mark Schlereth and Rich discuss Jayden Daniels leading the Commanders from NFL laughingstock to one win away from the Super Bowl in just one season, if Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs are more lucky than good, weighs in on the Eagles advancing to the NFC Championship Game, and says why criticism of Jared Goff and Lamar Jackson will be warranted until they prove their naysayers wrong. Rich and the guys break down the latest in the Dallas Cowboys head coaching search. Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:57:20

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What Jayden Daniels Is Doing Is Truly Unprecedented

1/20/2025
1/20/25 - Hour 1 Rich and the guys react to Josh Allen and the Bills’ holding off a late rally by Lamar Jackson and the Ravens to advance to the AFC Championship Game to face the Chiefs. Rich weighs in on Jayden Daniels looking like anything but a rookie quarterback in leading the Washington Commanders to a stunning upset of the top-seeded Detroit Lions to earn a spot in the NFC Championship Game. Rich and the guys react to the Chiefs reaching their 7th-consecutive AFC Championship Game by taking care of the Texans in a matchup that once again featured some questionable officiating that benefitted Kansas City. Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:57:18

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OverReaction Monday: This Is The Easiest Path For The Chiefs To Win A Super Bowl

1/20/2025
Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 -------- A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics: 1:15 - Saquon Barkley is hands down the 2024 NFL MVP 7:05 - Jayden Daniels is the best rookie QB of all-time and is going to the Super Bowl 11:15 - The Lions need a modern dual-threat QB if they want to be real Super Bowl contenders 15:20 - This is the Chiefs’ easiest path to winning the Super Bowl in their dynasty run 20:00 - NFL needs to make every penalty involving the QB reviewable 26:15 - It’s time to wonder of John Harbaugh is to best coach to push Lamar Jackson over the championship hump 30:00 - Revisiting Goff, Steelers and Chargers takes from our NFL Week 10 episode Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:37:25

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Andrew Whitworth: Commanders Beating The Lions Would Be A Huge Shocker

1/17/2025
1/17/25 - Hour 3 Thursday Night Football NFL Analyst Andrew Whitworth and Rich discuss how Sean McVay is able to get such committed buy-in from his Rams locker room and L.A.’s chances to upset the Eagles this Sunday, why the Chiefs and not the Bills or Ravens are his team to beat in the AFC, and says if Jayden Daniels and the Commanders have a shot to knock off the 1-seed Detroit Lions, and more. Rich previews how the Notre Dame vs Ohio State College Football Playoff national championship game is likely to shake out, reacts to the New York Mets reportedly lowballing free agent 1B Pete Alonso, and Mike Del Tufo forecasts the weather for this weekend’s NFL Divisional Round games. Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:54:49

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Tom Pelissero: Don't Get The Sense Pete Carroll Is A Focus For The Bears

1/17/2025
1/17/25 - Hour 2 Rich reveals his list of the top 5 matchups in the NFL’s Divisional Round games including Derrick Henry vs the Bills’ defense, Lamar Jackson vs Josh Allen and more. (timestamp) NFL Insider Tom Pelissero and Rich discuss the glut of interviews the New York Jets have held to fill their head coaching vacancy, the latest in the Bears’, Saints’ and Jaguars’ head coaching search, the challenges faced by Tom Brady and the Raiders in landing their preference HC candidate, why who will be the Dallas Cowboys next coach is anybody’s guess, the chances Jon Gruden, Pete Carroll of Bill Belichick end up coaching in the NFL again next fall, and the status of injured Ravens WR Zay Flowers. Rich and the guys discuss which direction the Cowboys and Raiders could go in their coaching search. Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:57:40

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NFL Divisional Round Preview

1/17/2025
1/17/25 - Hour 1 Rich previews the NFL’s Divisional Round games and outlines what’s at stake for every team involved. In ‘What’s More Likely’ Rich weighs in on the Rams, Texans, Travis Kelce, Saquon Barkley, the Cowboys’ next head coach, the Steelers’ starting QB next season and more. A caller makes a bold proposition for how Rich can solve his Ohio State-Notre Dame rooting interest conundrum. Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:57:51

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The Jim Jackson Show: Dr. Isadore Hall III

1/16/2025
Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 -------- Dr. Isadore Hall III joins the show to discuss the impacts of the California wildfire emergency in Southern California, the response from the local and state government, the obstacles of rebuilding communities that have been affected, and where residents and citizens can go from here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:42:39

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Mike Florio: The Commanders Are Playing With House Money

1/16/2025
1/16/25 - Hour 3 Pro Football Hall of Famer Ed Reed and Rich discuss Derrick Henry’s impact on the Baltimore Ravens’ offense this season, Bill Belichick taking the UNC Tarheels head coaching job, the possibility of Deion Sanders to the Dallas Cowboys, and more. Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio and Rich discuss the possibility of Deion Sanders to the Dallas Cowboys, the Minnesota Vikings’ big decisions on head coach Kevin O’Connell and QB Sam Darnold, the top storylines for the weekend’s NFL Divisional Round games, and if the Buccaneers could pull off a shocker and replace HC Todd Bowles with Bill Belichick. Rich and the guys break down the latest in the Kevin O’Connell/Vikings contract situation. Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:54:37