
The Gist
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For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea.
Location:
Washington, DC
Networks:
Slate
Description:
For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea.
Language:
English
Episodes
The Great Lantern Fly Freakout: Is That BS?
7/16/2025
Sadie Dingfelder returns to assess the national stomp-fest against lantern flies and asks: did it do anything, or was it all buggage and bluster? Then, a deep dive into the Supreme Courtâs CASA ruling on nationwide injunctions, and how a seemingly dramatic limitation on judicial power proved to be less than world-shifting in practice. Finally, Trump disavows Epstein file disclosure demands, setting off a civil war within MAGA media as conspiratorial cracks widen and cranks rage.
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Duration:00:37:29
The War After the War: Hamas and Israel
7/15/2025
Times of Israel analyst Haviv Rettig Gur discusses the next phase of the war in Gaza and Israel's many enemies. Also discussed are the ideological roots of Hamasâs mission to destroy Israel, settler violence in the West Bank, and the difficulty of safely getting food to the citizens of Gaza.
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Duration:00:59:13
Chris and Paul Weitz say Murderbot Doesnât Want to Be a Real Boy
7/14/2025
Murderbot showrunners Chris and Paul Weitz join to discuss their sci-fi seriesâ blend of chamber thriller, workplace satire, and reluctant hero taleâall orbiting a security unit who just wants to be left alone to binge his stories. They talk robot servitude, world-building exhaustion (âevery chair must be a space chairâ), and how Alexander SkarsgĂ„rdâs performance brings Scandinavian placidity to a roiling interior monologue. Also: the GOP goes ball(point)istic over Bidenâs legal use of an autopen.
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Duration:00:45:00
Checking Bags and Attitudes
7/12/2025
The TSA is finally starting to phase out its decades-old shoe removal policy. We take a look back at the post-9/11 panic that made bare feet in airport security lines a national ritualâand wonder how we went from hypervigilant to oddly indifferent about terrorism. Plus, from the vaults: A classic Spiel from July 17, 2017, revisits Ann Coulter vs. Delta, Day 3. Yes, it somehow made it to Day 3.
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Duration:00:19:53
Poker Face Goes To Interesting Places
7/11/2025
Tony Tost, now showrunning Poker Face, reflects on the show's expertly woven mysteries, genre roots, and why women who donât want to pick up a gun keep finding themselves forced to fire. Tost, an expert in poetry and Johnny Cash, brings a reverence for populist storytelling to a format that straddles the procedural and the mythic. He also discusses why westerns are still a hard sell in Hollywoodâeven when theyâre smart, stylish, and starring Sydney Sweeney. Plus, Mike gets hit with a burst of esprit de lâescalier over NATO dues and Plymouth Barracudas.
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Duration:00:40:06
NEM: Carine Hajjar and Jeffrey Maurer
7/10/2025
Boston Globe columnist Carine Hajjar and five-time Emmy-winning comedy writer and proprietor of the I Might Be Wrong Substack, Jeff Maurer, join to discuss the flood of ICE agents and President Trumpâs growing suspicion that Putin isn't on the up-and-up. Plus, in Goat Grinders: teeny-tiny air conditioning in New York, misinterpreting the cane toad, and (hardly ever) exploding sawdust.
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Duration:00:56:12
The Loyalty Trap: Inside the 2024 Biden-Harris Collapse
7/9/2025
Josh Dawsey joins to discuss 2024: How Donald Trump Retook the White House and the Democrats Lost America, digging into Kamala Harrisâs campaign missteps, Bidenâs loyalty hangups, and Hunterâs oversized influence. In the Spiel, a statistical deep dive tests whether so-called â100-year floodsâ are actually happening more often as seems to be the case. Spoiler: the data is murkier than the headlines suggest, and the NOAA interface could use a centuryâs worth of upgrades.
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Duration:00:37:06
Iranian Would-Be Assassins and Shoe Would-Be Bombers
7/8/2025
An interview with Wall Street Journal reporter Josh Dawsey, co-author of 2024: How Trump Retook the White House and the Democrats Lost America, covers Bidenâs decline, Trumpâs courtroom rage, and the political strategy behind legal delays. Also , how potent are Iranian-directed assassination crews? And, as the TSA begins phasing out its decades-old shoe removal policy, a look back on how we were very very concerned with terrorism then, and weirdly blasĂ© about terrorism now. And finally a quiz sifts through the TSAâs baffling baggage rules, from tamales and chapstick to harry potter wands (non-operational).
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Duration:00:36:08
The Un "Fudge" America Tour Gets "Fudged" From Within
7/7/2025
Zee Cohen-Sanchez, a Bernie Sanders campaign veteran, launched âUn**** Americaâ (we're going with Unfudge America) to counter Charlie Kirkâs influence on college campuses. But internal drama and performative purity politics quickly sabotaged the project. She recounts how influencer apologies empowered whiny critics and fractured the leftâs ability to wield electoral power. Plus, with nearly 100 dead from the Texas floods, we examine the explanations. Climate change likely played a role, but history, geography, and neglected hydrology account for just as muchâand the reflexive invocation of climate alone can obscure other actionable causes.
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Duration:00:43:27
Cascade PBS: Tapper, Thompson, and Pesca
7/5/2025
Today on The Gist we play from Mike Pesca's panel at the Cascade PBS Ideas Festival about the book Original Sin with the Authors Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson.
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Duration:00:47:22
Final Thoughts: Jerry Springerâs Political Past and Americaâs Appetite for Spectacle
7/3/2025
Leon Neyfakh joins the show to discuss Final Thoughts, his new podcast chronicling Jerry Springerâs transformation from charismatic progressive politician to ringmaster of daytime TV chaos. They explore how Springerâs earnest civic ambitions unraveled into tabloid infamyâand why he never fully distanced himself from the circus he hosted. Mike also reflects on Americaâs confusing birthdayâwhether 1776, 1787, or the neglected Articles of Confederation truly mark the foundingâand why the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth never made it to its own sestercentennial. Itâs a conversation about spectacle, civic identity, and the uneasy line between public service and entertainment.
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Duration:00:38:52
The Bane of the Blue Collar
7/2/2025
Professor Joan C. Williams joins the show to discuss her book Outclassed: How the Left Lost the Working Class and How to Win Them Back. She explains how the decline of unions, elite cultural codes, and a failure to value stability over novelty have fueled resentment. Mike also examines Pixarâs box office collapse, the rise of âbean mouthâ animation, and whether John Lasseterâs departure was Me Tooâs costliest ouster.
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Duration:00:45:22
Big Beautiful Blunder
7/1/2025
The episode kicks off with a withering look at the âBig Beautiful Bill,â a deficit-busting tax cut that showers the rich while hacking away at Medicaid for the poorest Americans. Then, a trip to Minnesotaâs Iron Range, where Bethany McLean discusses the bitter fight over Nippon Steelâs bid to buy U.S. Steelâand the awkward dance between union leadership and the workers they claim to represent. Itâs a story about how economic reality collides with political theater, and why Democrats keep misreading the mood in places that once anchored their coalition. And in the Spiel, a reminder that no amount of spectacle can disguise the trade-offs hiding in plain sight of that big, beautiful boondoggle.
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Duration:00:39:08
Escaping the Nazis. Then Going Back
6/30/2025
Daniel Kehlmann joins to discuss The Director, his novel reimagining the life of G.W. Pabstâa brilliant German filmmaker who escaped the Nazis, only to voluntarily return. Kehlmann grapples with how much human suffering weâre willing to accept as the cost of art. Later, Ben Wittes of Lawfare weighs in on the often exasperating logic behind international laws governing conflict. Plus, Republicans can either oppose Trump or stay in officeâbut not both.
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Duration:00:37:24
The Cuomo Special
6/28/2025
Today on The Gist, we go back into the vaults to our 2023 interview with Melissa DeRosa about her book on working with Andrew Cuomo, What's Left Unsaid: My Life at the Center of Power, Politics & Crisis. Then we play a Spiel from earlier in the week about Andrew Cuomo failing to get the Democratic nomination for mayor.
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Duration:00:30:39
The Wars We Carry: From Iraq To Port-au-Prince
6/27/2025
Jim OâGrady and Thomas Brennan discuss Revealâs episode on the Marines who fought in Fallujah, exploring how the battleâs brutality and moral injuries still haunt them 20 years later. In the Spiel, Haitiâs use of drones against gangs runs up against the oddity of international law experts declaring such violence not technically an âarmed conflict.â Plus, a SCOTUS decision that pits lower courts against each other.
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Duration:00:36:55
Closed Schools, Closed Minds
6/26/2025
David Zweig, author of An Abundance of Caution: American Schools, the Virus, and a Story of Bad Decisions, discusses public healthâs blind spotsâand when caution became the risk. Plus, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. reshapes the CDCâs vaccine advisory panel, swapping experts for skeptics and dredging up the long-debunked thimerosal panic on his way to declaring war on mayonnaise. And in the Spiel: a U.S. strike on Iranâs Fordow facility may have been less obliteration than âoblit-ish-ation,â though both the administration and its critics are spinning narratives faster than centrifuges.
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Duration:00:33:38
Closed Schools, Closed Minds
6/26/2025
David Zweig, author of An Abundance of Caution: American Schools, the Virus, and a Story of Bad Decisions, discusses public healthâs blind spotsâand when caution became the risk. Plus, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. reshapes the CDCâs vaccine advisory panel, swapping experts for skeptics and dredging up the long-debunked thimerosal panic on his way to declaring war on mayonnaise. And in the Spiel: a U.S. strike on Iranâs Fordow facility may have been less obliteration than âoblit-ish-ation,â though both the administration and its critics are spinning narratives faster than centrifuges. Produced by Corey WaraProduction Coordinator Ashley KhanEmail us at â â â â thegist@mikepesca.comâ â â â To advertise on the show, contact â â â â ad-sales@libsyn.comâ â â â or visit â â â â https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGistâ â â â Subscribe to The Gist: â â â â https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/â â â â Subscribe to The Gist Youtube Page: â â â â https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_gâ â â â Subscribe to The Gist Instagram Page: â â â â GIST INSTAGRAMâ â â â Follow The Gist List at: â â â â Pescaâ â â â â â â â Profundities | Mike Pesca | Substack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:00:39:07
The High Point of Mt. Mamdani?
6/25/2025
Zohran Mamdani is likely the next mayor of New York, and progressive enthusiasm is peakingâalong with demands that you pronounce his name correctly. Andrew Cuomo, a man of few smiles and even fewer surrogates, concedes with the warmth of a trooper lawsuit. Mike considers whether this is Mamdaniâs political high-water mark, as voters begin to discover the costs, the quotes, and the Disney press junkets. Also on the show: journalist David Zweig joins to discuss An Abundance of Caution: American Schools, the Virus, and a Story of Bad Decisions. Produced by Corey WaraProduction Coordinator Ashley KhanEmail us at â â â â thegist@mikepesca.comâ â â â To advertise on the show, contact â â â â ad-sales@libsyn.comâ â â â or visit â â â â https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGistâ â â â Subscribe to The Gist: â â â â https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/â â â â Subscribe to The Gist Youtube Page: â â â â https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_gâ â â â Subscribe to The Gist Instagram Page: â â â â GIST INSTAGRAMâ â â â Follow The Gist List at: â â â â Pescaâ â â â â â â â Profundities | Mike Pesca | Substackâ â â â Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:00:36:54
Tehran Target Acquired...Damaged...Destroyed...Debated
6/24/2025
Jerusalem Post military correspondent Yonah Jeremy Bob, co-author of Target Tehran: How Israel Is Using Sabotage, Cyberwarfare, Assassinationâand Secret Diplomacyâto Stop a Nuclear Iran and Create a New Middle East, explains how Israel coordinated hundreds of strikes and infiltrations across Iran, what the U.S. MOP strike on Fordow actually accomplished, and why Netanyahuâs longtime caution gave way to a high-stakes gamble. He also delves into internal Israeli debates over assassinating Khamenei, the strategy behind targeting Iranâs domestic enforcers, and why the Iranian nuclear threat is now both diminished and more unpredictable Plus: Mamdaniâs cheerful radicalism, Cuomoâs glower, and a reminder that aspirational politics can veer into Theranos territory. Produced by Corey WaraProduction Coordinator Ashley KhanEmail us at â â â â thegist@mikepesca.comâ â â â To advertise on the show, contact â â â â ad-sales@libsyn.comâ â â â or visit â â â â https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGistâ â â â Subscribe to The Gist: â â â â https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/â â â â Subscribe to The Gist Youtube Page: â â â â https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_gâ â â â Subscribe to The Gist Instagram Page: â â â â GIST INSTAGRAMâ â â â Follow The Gist List at: â â â â Pescaâ â â â â â â â Profundities | Mike Pesca | Substack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Duration:00:59:43