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In this beautiful conversation–in which Glennon names Cole’s book “This Here Flesh” the Next Right Book–we discuss: 1. What we learned from Cole’s insight that, “If you’re not in your body, someone else is.” 2. A mind-blowing revelation about all of our own faces that we will never stop thinking about. 3. Why the phrase “If you don’t believe you’re beautiful, no one else will” is horseshit. 4. Why dignity is the bedrock to being alive–and how to find it when we haven’t been loved well. 5. The connection between fear and awe–and how to practice wonder as a cure for despair. About Cole: Cole Arthur Riley is a writer and poet. She is the author of the NYT bestseller, This Here Flesh: Spirituality, Liberation, and the Stories that Make Us. Her writing has been featured in The Atlantic, Guernica, and The Washington Post. Cole is also the creator and writer of Black Liturgies, a project that integrates spiritual practice with Black emotion, Black literature, and the Black body. TW: @blackliturgist IG: @colearthurriley @blackliturgies To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

375. How to Stop Worrying with Martha Beck Martha Beck shares more on how to lessen anxiety’s grip by coaching Amanda, Abby and Glennon out of their anxiety spirals. Discover: -How to uncover the heart of your deepest fear -How to tell whether something is truly enlightening or dangerously false -The surprising power of living in a state of “I don’t know” Dr. Martha Beck, PhD, is a New York Times bestselling author, coach, and speaker. She holds three Harvard degrees in social science, and Oprah Winfrey has called her “one of the smartest women I know.” Martha is a passionate and engaging teacher, known for her unique combination of science, humor, and spirituality. Her recent book, The Way of Integrity: Finding the Path to Your True Self, was an instant New York Times Best Seller and an Oprah’s Book Club selection. Her new book, Beyond Anxiety: Curiosity, Creativity, and Finding Your Life’s Purpose, is available now. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Glennon, Abby, and Amanda help us shed guilt through a freeing reframe inspired by a conversation with Dr. Becky Kennedy. Listen to learn: How to know what is true guilt and what is just the uncomfortable ickiness of defying expectations; how to hold boundaries in order to live shamelessly within our own values; and how to maintain empathy by staying with our own emotions instead of internalizing the emotions of others. Also, we need your help inventing a word for the “not guilt” feeling! Get Dr. Becky Kennedy's "Good Inside Guilt Guide," to find out if what you're feeling is truly "guilt" or something else, here: https://forms.gle/Aad1g5LSBNFZoXaN6. Check out our past conversations with Dr. Becky Kennedy, and the Dr. Brené Brown episodes we talk about today: Ep 170 The Most Radical Way to Heal: Internal Family Systems with Dr. Becky Kennedy; Ep 169 Why We Love the Way We Love: Attachment Styles with Dr. Becky Kennedy; Ep 131 How to Raise Untamed Kids with Dr. Becky Kennedy; Ep 130 Breaking Cycles and Reparenting Yourself with Dr. Becky Kennedy; Ep 88 Brené Brown & Barrett Guillen: Sisters Double Date; Ep 83 Brené Brown: What to Say to Get What You Need; Ep 49 Dr. Brené Brown: On Holding Boundaries & Facing Our Fears; and Ep 48 Dr. Brené Brown: How to Know Ourselves & Be Known By Our People. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

374. Life Beyond Anxiety with Martha Beck Martha Beck, bestselling author and life coach, returns to discuss anxiety including actionable strategies for quelling it and achieving a state of calm. This episode is part one of two. Come back next time, to hear Martha coach Amanda, Abby and Glennon out of an anxiety spiral. Discover: -The one powerful question to ask yourself to start breaking free from anxiety -Martha’s surprising take on the antidote to anxiety -The biggest lie anxiety tells us—and how to uncover the truth -Why nature, creativity, and your senses hold the key to calm Dr. Martha Beck, PhD, is a New York Times bestselling author, coach, and speaker. She holds three Harvard degrees in social science, and Oprah Winfrey has called her “one of the smartest women I know.” Martha is a passionate and engaging teacher, known for her unique combination of science, humor, and spirituality. Her recent book, The Way of Integrity: Finding the Path to Your True Self, was an instant New York Times Best Seller and an Oprah’s Book Club selection. Her new book, Beyond Anxiety: Curiosity, Creativity, and Finding Your Life’s Purpose, is available now. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

1. Five signs that you might have a boundary problem. 2. Why each of us should stop pretending we’re not a needy person. 3. How to stop arguing like a lawyer – and start communicating like a kindergartener – to get what you need. 4. How to know when to end an argument, how to exit a friendship, and how to respond to passive aggressiveness. About Nedra: Nedra Glover Tawwab, MSW, LCSW, is a New York Times best-selling author, licensed therapist, and sought-after relationship expert. She has practiced relationship therapy for 15 years and is the founder and owner of the group therapy practice, Kaleidoscope Counseling. Every day she helps people create healthy relationships by teaching them how to implement boundaries. Her philosophy is that a lack of boundaries and assertiveness underlie most relationship issues, and her gift is helping people create healthy relationships with themselves and others. Nedra earned her undergraduate and graduate degrees from Wayne State University in Detroit, MI. She has additional certifications in working with families and couples and in perinatal mood and anxiety disorders, plus advanced training for counseling adults who've experienced childhood emotional neglect. Nedra has appeared as an expert on Red Table Talk, The Breakfast Club, Good Morning America, and CBS Morning Show to name a few. Her work has been highlighted in The New York Times, The Guardian, and Vice and has appeared on numerous podcasts, including Good Life Project, Sofia with an F, and Therapy For Black Girls. She runs a popular Instagram account where she shares practices, tools, and reflections for mental health and hosts weekly Q&As. TW: @NedraTawwab IG: @nedratawwab To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

373. Mel Robbins: Your Life-Changing “LET THEM!” Tool for the New Year Mel Robbins joins Abby, Glennon, and Amanda to discuss the power of focusing on what we can control, and the liberation that comes from letting go of what we can't control. Discover: -The three things you can always control—and why they’re the key to happiness -The best way to handle a narcissist without losing your peace -The one question that can spark real change in anyone -Why pressuring the people you love will never work—and the better approach More on Mel: Mel Robbins is a New York Times best-selling author and a world-renowned expert on mindset, motivation, and behavior change. With millions of books sold, seven #1 Audible titles, and billions of video views, Mel’s impact is truly global. As the host of The Mel Robbins Podcast, the Webby and Signal Award-winning #1 education podcast. She was named one of Forbes' 50 Over 50 and serves on the board of directors of Amplify Publishing. The Let Them Theory is her newest book and is out now. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

1. The moment Abby – as Christen’s USWNT roommate – walked into their hotel room and knew Christen was very different than any soccer player she’d ever known. 2. The boundary that helps Christen love her people while protecting herself. 3. Christen’s take on death and how to keep the people we’ve lost alive in our lives. 4. How to show our people (including our little athletes) that we love them for who they are, not what they achieve. 5. The day Christen knew she was ready to fight for – and win – pay equity for the US Women’s National Team. About Christen: Christen Press is a two-time World Cup Champion and Olympian, as well as a leading forward at Los Angeles Angel City FC. An entrepreneur and advocate for inclusivity, Christen, along with US Women’s National teammates – Megan Rapinoe, Tobin Heath, and Meghan Klingenberg – launched their company re—inc, a purpose-driven, global lifestyle brand. Christen was one of the key players leading the charge for the “Equal Play, Equal Pay” campaign to highlight the pay discrepancy between the women’s and men’s national teams, which led to the new CBA agreement – and to her role as Player Representative for the US Women's National Team Players Association. IG: @christenpress To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Amanda, Glennon and Abby explore how to survive the lifelong, universal pain of being left out: What Abby felt when she heard “We don’t want you here” – and its long-lasting impact; Why it is so painful, and how to process feelings of rejection and isolation; How dissociation helped Glennon cope with rejection in the cafeteria; What parents should and *should not* do when helping kids navigate exclusion; and The real difference between “fitting in” and “belonging.” Also check out Episode 179: How to Fix Our Loneliness with Dr. Marisa G. Franco To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

1. Abby shares with Sara the great personal impact Sara’s music has made on her life. 2. Sara and Glennon bond over the joy of solitude, the underrated gifts of being heavy-hearted, and the fact that “there are too many things to be worried about at all times” to be lighthearted. 3. When you are in deep stress, do you try to sabotage your job, relationship, etc.? (Before this conversation, Amanda thought it was just her.) 4. How playfulness and joy – connecting to the little kid who grew up into you – are vital to loving yourself. 5. Sara’s beautiful journey with medication for depression and anxiety – and how she learned her anxiety often arises from an unexpressed need. About Sara: Sara Bareilles is a Tony Award and Emmy Award nominated actor, and Grammy Award winning singer and songwriter. On Broadway, Sara composed music and lyrics for Waitress, in which she was also the lead. Sara also produced original music and executive produced the musical drama series Little Voice. She plays Dawn Solano on the Emmy-nominated musical comedy series Girls5eva, and stars as The Baker’s Wife in the Broadway revival Into the Woods. TW: @SaraBareilles IG: @sarabareilles To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Glennon, Abby, Amanda and the Pod Squad share their most brutiful and hilarious holiday stories. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

1. Thinking of depression as a way of seeing the world … through toilet paper roll binoculars. 2. Why healing might actually just be permission to go. 3. Chanel’s definition of success: refusing to succumb to perfection or exhaustion–and showing up as herself in every moment. 4. The healing moment when Chanel returned to Stanford and was held in sound–which set her free. About Chanel: Chanel Miller is a writer and artist who received her BA in Literature from the University of California, Santa Barbara. Her critically acclaimed memoir, KNOW MY NAME, was a New York Times bestseller, a New York Times Book Review Notable Book, and a National Book Critics Circle Award winner, as well as a best book of 2019 in Time, the Washington Post, the Chicago Tribune, NPR, and People, among others. She is a 2019 Time Next 100 honoree and a 2016 Glamour Woman of the Year honoree under her pseudonym, “Emily Doe.” IG: chanel_miller To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

372. The Presley Family Legacy with Riley Keough Glennon, Abby, and Amanda sit down with Riley Keough to explore her journey through love, loss, and healing within her family. Riley talks about co-authoring her mother Lisa Marie Presley's memoir, From Here to the Great Unknown: A Memoir, which recounts Lisa Marie’s life as the daughter of Elvis Presley, her career, her own family, and everything in between. Riley also shares how she is finding purpose and strength amidst profound loss. Discover: -The unfinished family work Riley is closing for her mother and grandfather -The way Riley’s experience loving people with addictions and grief shaped her understanding of love and resilience -How Riley names the profound sadness and generational trauma within her family -The inherent conflict between Lisa Marie and her mom, and how Riley finds compassion for them both. On Riley: Riley Keough is an Emmy, Golden Globe, and Independent Spirit Award–nominated actress. She is known for her work in Daisy Jones & the Six, Zola, and more. She also co-directed War Pony (2022), and cofounded the production company Felix Culpa with Gina Gammell. She is the eldest daughter of Lisa Marie Presley and sole trustee of Graceland. Her new book - From Here to the Great Unknown—written in both Lisa Marie’s and Riley’s voices, a mother and daughter communicating—from this world to the one beyond—as they try to heal each other – is available now. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What is gaslighting REALLY and what isn’t? Plus, how to know if you’re in a relationship with a gaslighter, the three types of gaslighters, and how to break free from a gaslighter and reclaim yourself. About Dr. Stern: Robin Stern, Ph.D., is the co-founder and associate director for the Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence and an associate research scientist at the Child Study Center at Yale. She is a licensed psychoanalyst with 30 years of experience treating individuals, couples, and families. She is the author of The Gaslight Effect Recovery Guide: Your Personal Journey Toward Healing from Emotional Abuse. TW: @RobinSStern IG: @dr.robinstern To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

371. I’m a Sociopath: Patric Gagne’s Story Patric Gagne – writer, former therapist, diagnosed sociopath, and advocate for people with sociopathic, psychopathic, and antisocial personality disorders – shares -What sociopathy is and how it shows up in her life; -The shocking statistic of how many people are sociopathic; -How her diagnosis affects her experience as a wife and mother; and -The ways in which sociopathy is actually a superpower. About Patric: PATRIC GAGNE is a writer, former therapist, and advocate for people with sociopathic, psychopathic, and anti-social personality disorders. Her New York Times best-selling memoir, Sociopath, shares her struggle to understand her own sociopathy and shed light on this often-maligned and misunderstood mental disorder. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

370. How to Know if You’re in a Cult with Tia Levings (Pt. 2) Glennon, Amanda, and Abby welcome back Tia Levings for part two of this amazing conversation on her experience leaving a high control Christian Fundamentalist cult. Tia shares her experience leaving the church and her husband and offers advice for others in a similar situation. Discover: -The life-saving power of women sharing their stories—and why it threatens patriarchy -How she finally heard her own voice—and how you can find yours, too -Why people crave fundamentalism—and a solution they’re searching for -Tia’s life-saving advice for women escaping abuse or high-control groups More on Tia: Tia Levings is the New York Times Bestselling author of A Well-Trained Wife, her memoir of escape from Christian Patriarchy. She writes about the realities of Christian fundamentalism, evangelical patriarchy, and religious trauma. She also appeared in the hit Amazon docu-series, Shiny Happy People. Based in North Carolina, she is mom to four incredible adults and likes to travel, hike, paint, and daydream. Find her on social media @TiaLevingsWriter. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

1. Alex’s four most effective healing techniques that you can start today. 2. How it affects us to grow up never seeing our mothers have joy. 3. Why – if you think you don’t have any self-soothing strategies – you actually just have unhealthy self-soothing strategies. 4. Childhood wounds that surface in adulthood, and the path to intergenerational healing. 5. Where to begin when you never receive the apology and closure you deserve. About Alex: Alex Elle is an author, certified breathwork coach, podcast host, and Restorative Writing teacher. Alex’s writing came into her life by way of therapy and the exploration of healing through journaling and mindfulness. Her most recent book, HOW WE HEAL, is available now. TW: @alex_elle IG: @alex To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

369. Trad Wife Cults: How Tia Levings Escaped (Pt 1) Glennon, Amanda, and Abby sit down with Tia Levings, NYT bestselling author, to discuss her experience in a high control Christian Fundamentalist cult: her journey from indoctrination to freedom to healing from religious trauma. Discover: -Why strong women are often drawn into Christian extremism—and how they can break free -Why parents are taught to hit infants, and husbands are taught to spank their wives -The hidden agenda behind why Christian Fundamentalists encourage large families -The moment Glennon busted her kids out of Christian school -The eerie crossover of wellness culture and Christian extremism More on Tia: Tia Levings is the New York Times Bestselling author of A Well-Trained Wife, her memoir of escape from Christian Patriarchy. She writes about the realities of Christian fundamentalism, evangelical patriarchy, and religious trauma. She also appeared in the hit Amazon docu-series, Shiny Happy People. Based in North Carolina, she is mom to four incredible adults and likes to travel, hike, paint, and daydream. Find her on social media @TiaLevingsWriter. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

368. The Closure Myth: How Do We Really Move On? Abby, Glennon and Amanda delve into your voicemails and discuss matters of the broken heart, closure, self-sabotage, moving toward or away from family, and more. Discover: Glennon’s “magical pessimism” Why creative people do not seek out closure The geographical solution or finding the “right” place to live To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

1. What Melissa’s parents said when she told them about her dream – and how those magic words set the course of Melissa’s life. 2. The green and red flags Melissa tells her kids to look for in a relationship. 3. Why Melissa is a shark, and her brilliant strategy to “Run Around the Block” in almost any difficult situation. 4. Melissa’s and Abby’s experiences with ghosts. 5. How Melissa learned about sex – and the way she talks to her kids about it. About Melissa: Melissa McCarthy is an award-winning writer, producer, and actor. Her work includes Bridesmaids, Can You Ever Forgive Me?, Ghostbusters,The Heat; Identity Thief; This is 40, The Hangover Part III, The Starling, “Gilmore Girls”, and “Samantha Who?”. She won an Emmy Award and People’s Choice Award for her role in “Mike & Molly” as well as an Emmy for “Saturday Night Live”. Melissa and her husband Ben Falcone founded On the Day Productions and have produced Tammy, The Boss, Life of the Party, “Nobodies,” “Little Big Shots,” Superintelligence , Thunder Force, “God’s Favorite Idiot,” and Bob Ross: Happy Accidents, Betrayal & Greed. TW: @melissamccarthy IG: @melissamccarthy To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

367. Glennon’s Dramatic Social Media Plan with Amelia Hruby Today, we’re finally doing it: talking about leaving social media. On the episode you’ll hear Glennon, Abby and Amanda chat with their guest, Amelia Hruby about the challenges and impacts of social media on mental health, personal relationships, community building, and self-worth. Glennon shares her experience of stepping away from social media and possible next steps. Discover: -How social media is linked to codependency and anxious attachment -The two must-do practices to evaluate your current relationship to social media -How to navigate the fear of missing out (FOMO) and stay connected without social media -Glennon’s journey to leaving socials and what she is thinking of doing next More on Amelia: Amelia Hruby is a writer, educator and podcaster with a PhD in philosophy. She is the founder of Softer Sounds, a feminist podcast studio for entrepreneurs and creatives. And she’s the host of Off the Grid, a podcast about leaving social media without losing all your clients. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices