Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast

The Browns are back in the quarterback market so quarterback day at the NFL Combine matters once again with the draft less than two months away. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe listened to the quarterbacks talk on Friday and then recorded the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They start by talking about the top two prospects and the contrasts in their personalities and playing styles. How do Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders fit with the Browns? Is one a better option than the other? Then they get into some of the players who make up the rest of this year’s class. Should the Browns draft Will Howard? What about Jaxson Dart and Jalen Milroe? They get into all of it and more. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns and Myles Garrett have reached a potential inflection point in their standoff, with Garrett and his camp not interested in negotiating an extension. It’s another twist in the saga between the two sides. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dig into the latest on the Garrett vs. the Browns situation on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast from the NFL Scouting Combine. They talk about what this means and if this is what could cause the Browns to decide to trade Garrett. They also talk about what could have happened between the two sides and the role Klutch Sports plays in all of this. They also talk about the team building impact of trading Garrett and if it would change their view on how the Browns approach this offseason. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns — and Kevin Stefanski — did not fare well on the NFLPA’s 2025 report card. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their Wednesday Orange and Brown Talk podcast from the NFL Scouting Combine by talking about why Stefanski and the Browns graded so poorly, what they can and can’t understand and what the Browns should do about it. First, they spend some time on Kevin Stefanski backing up GM Andrew Berry on hanging on to Myles Garrett after his trade request. Then they get into Deshaun Watson rehabbing in Cleveland and what it says about Watson and the Browns and how this will play out. They wrap up the podcast by getting into Stefanski’s glowing comments about this year’s quarterback draft class. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns GM Andrew Berry spoke on Tuesday for the first time since Myles Garrett went public with his trade request and, unsurprisingly, Berry held his ground in regards to the request. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss what Berry had to say about Garrett and more on their Tuesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast from the NFL Scouting Combine. They also talk about Berry acknowledging that running back Nick Chubb will hit free agency and tryied to pick through the crumbs of what he said to see if he gave any hints about the team’s free agency or draft plans. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are confident that if they get quarterback figured out, they can start winning again, so when a quarterback like Matthew Stafford might be available, it’s incumbent on the Browns to inquire. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe took a break from scrambling to get ready to leave for the NFL Scouting Combine on Monday on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast to talk about the Browns and Stafford and if the Browns really should get aggressive in going after Stafford and if they could actually land him. They also talk about the release of safety Juan Thornhill and what’s next at the position and who needs to step up. Lastly, they discuss Shedeur Sanders not throwing at the Combine and whether they expect Cam Ward to do the same and why it does — or doesn’t — matter. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns and Myles Garrett remain at a standstill as the NFL Combine starts next week. It’s one of the flashpoints in this ordeal as the event brings GMs and coaches together in one place. In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the ongoing situation surrounding Garrett, including potential trade rumors and contract negotiations. They delve into the financial implications of trading Garrett, the value he brings to the team and the Browns' draft strategy, particularly regarding quarterback prospects. Among the highlights: Garrett’s situation is complex. The Browns have control over Garrett’s future due to his contract. Andrew Berry is likely to slow play the situation with Garrett. The value of a player like Garrett is difficult to quantify in terms of wins. It’s essential to question the motives behind leaked information during the Combine. Time stamps (approximate) 00:00 Introduction and Garrett’s Situation 05:40 Financial Implications of Trading Miles Garrett 15:06 Assessing the Value of Garrett 20:16 Quarterback Decisions and Draft Strategies 30:51 Rumors and Speculations Ahead of the Draft Listen using the player below. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns cornerback Greg Newsome II wants to be in Cleveland long-term, even with free agency looming after this season. He’ll have a chance to make his case in 2025, but his role is still up in the air. The Browns will have to make decisions sooner on some other players who have been around a while — while they wait on the decision of their longest-tenured player about his future. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look to the future on a number of Browns free agents on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast after they discuss Newsome’s future with the team. They talk about Jedrick Wills Jr., Nick Chubb, Joel Bitonio and Jameis Winston and whether they will be around for a little while longer or if their time in a Browns uniform is over. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns will go on the clock early in Round of the 2025 NFL Draft and it won't take long to know what they think of the top of this quarterback class. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk through what could happen on Tuesday's edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They start by discussing Cam Ward's comments about teams passing on him regretting it. Then they get into two Browns-only mock drafts, one Ashley put up on Tuesday and another Dan put up on Saturday. They went in opposite directions at quarterback and edge rusher and they discuss their reasoning. What would the reaction be if the Browns passed on a quarterback? How would they solve the position if they don't do at No. 2 overall? Who are some of their veteran options? They get into all of it on this podcast. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns will certainly take a quarterback in the 2025 NFL Draft and could very well take one at No. 2 overall. Should they take more than one quarterback? It’s one of the questions Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer on the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Would they take more than one quarterback in the draft? Which player currently on the roster could break out in 2025? Do the Browns need to prioritize running back this offseason given the direction the offense appears headed? They answer those questions and more in the latest podcast. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We’re back with Part 2 of our Ask Us Anything edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe keep the mailbag open from our Football Insider subscribers and answer their questions about football, life and more. They start by trying to convince one disenfranchised fan that the Browns will be worth watching in 2025 before they get into what they love most about the city of Cleveland, what it’s like when they go on the road for a game and what they like most about covering the Browns and the NFL. We even get a Mary Kay story time involving travel, riding the team bus and a bucket of chicken. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Which Browns seasons were our least and most favorite to cover? How do we react to something like the Myles Garrett trade request? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe answered those questions and more in an Ask Us Anything edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about the good and bad seasons they’ve covered, the content opportunities of a big, breaking news story, last-minute Valentine’s Day gift advice, offseason plans and more. They even make time for some football talk, like whether the Browns will re-sign Nick Chubb and why they left themselves short at tackle last season. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The NFL calendar is turning fully to the offseason and the real work is underway for the Browns, who hold the No. 2 overall pick in the draft. On Tuesday’s episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe, Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock discuss Dane Brugler’s Top 100 board and his rankings of quarterbacks Sheduer Sanders and Cam Ward. They also talk about veteran quarterback options like Kirk Cousins and Sam Darnold before they get into what it would look like if the Browns didn’t take a quarterback at No. 2 overall. Time stamps (AI generated) 00:00 Introduction 00:56 Draft Season and Quarterback Rankings 03:57 Evaluating Quarterback Potential 08:08 The Importance of Team Fit for Quarterbacks 11:12 Veteran Quarterback Options for the Browns 15:03 Assessing Kirk Cousins and Other Veterans 19:56 Trading Down vs. Staying at Number Two 23:56 Hypothetical Scenarios for the Browns' Draft Strategy 27:00 Reality TV and Game Show Preferences Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There could be another veteran quarterback option for the Browns now that the Jets have decided to move on from Aaron Rodgers. Would they have an interest in the former league MVP and Super Bowl champ to start for them next season? That's where Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start in their latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk through why the Browns might consider Rodgers and why they might decide to avoid pursuing him. They also dig more into the Myles Garrett trade request and the fallout from his media tour Super Bowl week and what he had to say in a week full of interviews. Is there any coming back from what he had to say? Are they more or less convinced he'll actually get traded? They also try to predict what the Browns quarterback room will look like in 2025 and discuss the rookie quarterback options. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

CLEVELAND, Ohio — The fallout from Myles Garrett’s trade request from the Browns continued throughout Super Bowl week, including Denzel Ward’s comments about his future in Cleveland if the Browns did trade their star pass rusher. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe started their weekend edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Ward’s comments and the potential fallout on the roster if Garrett’s trade request is granted by the Browns. They also spend more time on Garrett and the Browns' options, if they believe that he’ll actually get traded and what this looks like if it turns ugly between the two sides. They wrap up by looking ahead to Sunday’s Super Bowl matchup between the Chiefs and Eagles. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Myles Garrett made his trade request to the Browns on Monday and the reactions to his request and guesses as to the future came in hot and heavy. With a little time to reflect, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe got together for a day-after Myles Garrett Orange and Brown Talk podcast and talked through how their viewpoint has evolved since Garrett made the request. They discuss why it’s difficult for the Browns to trade Garrett and why it simply might not make sense. They also talk about how they think this all will end and if Garrett has any leverage in this situation. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns pass rusher Myles Garrett went public with his trade request on Monday morning, starting off Super Bowl week with a bang and shaking the NFL world. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to Garrett’s trade request on this emergency edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They start with their initial reaction to the trade request and what they first thought when Garrett’s statement came out. Then they get into the timing of Garrett going public with this when he did. They discuss the Browns' options as they stand steadfast in their stance to not trade him and if they should at least think about it. They also get into if they actually think Garrett will be traded and, if not, how this will end. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns hope to turn around their fortunes quickly after a 3-14 season in 2024, but it won’t be easy, given the elite talent at quarterback in the AFC and the holes on the roster. Should Browns fans reset their expectations for the near future? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer that question on a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They discuss the difficulty of winning the Super Bowl, especially out of the AFC with all the quarterbacks in the conference before they turn their attention to the draft. Do they have to take a quarterback? Is there a scenario where they don’t take a quarterback? Who could they take later in the draft if they don’t like a quarterback at No. 2? Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns face a big decision with the No. 2 overall pick in the NFL Draft. First, do they want to take a quarterback there? Second, which quarterback do they want to take in that spot? Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland join Dan Labbe on Friday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast to look at the top two options in this year’s quarterback class, Miami’s Cam Ward and Colorado’s Shedeur Sanders. They go through both players and toss out one thing they like and one thing they don’t like about each player, trying to build a collective scouting report on each player. They also discuss some of the other quarterbacks they like in this class and what options the Browns could consider if they don’t pick a quarterback with the second pick. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Browns are digging into the 2025 NFL Draft class and their special teams coordinator, Bubba Ventrone, is getting an up-close look at prospects this week at the Senior Bowl by serving as head coach of the American Team. What sort of advantage does it give the Browns that Ventrone is coaching this group and spending so much time around some of these players? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss Ventrone’s role and what the Browns can glean from him doing it on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They also talk about quarterbacks Jalen Milroe, Jaxson Dart and Dillon Gabriel and what Mary Kay is seeing in Mobile as she watches practice and participates in interviews with them. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Browns GM Andrew Berry said at the Senior Bowl on Tuesday that he wasn’t going to trade edge rusher Myles Garrett and is open to an extension of the team’s star edge rusher. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about Garrett’s future in Cleveland and if he could become the first non-quarterback to get a fully guaranteed deal and the case he could make to be that guy. They also discuss what the pitch to Garrett could have been to keep him happy and how the Browns will solve their quarterback problem to get Garrett to the Super Bowl. Lastly, they talk about Deion Sanders and why Berry was confident that he would be fine with his son, Shedeur, playing in Cleveland. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices