
Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast
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Get the latest news and analysis about the Cleveland Browns from Mary Kay Cabot, Dan Labbe, Scott Patsko, Ashley Bastock and special guests on cleveland.com
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Get the latest news and analysis about the Cleveland Browns from Mary Kay Cabot, Dan Labbe, Scott Patsko, Ashley Bastock and special guests on cleveland.com
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@clevelanddotcom
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English
Email:
sports@cleveland.com
Episodes
NFL Draft defensive line preview + players the Browns have to take and a 7-round mock draft
4/18/2025
The Browns go on the clock in less than a week and currently hold 10 picks, representing an opportunity to infuse much-needed young talent on the roster. Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland join Dan Labbe for their final draft preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Their focus in this podcast is the defensive line and they start by letting Lance make his case for a guy that he likes at No. 2 overall. Then they go through their favorite edge rushers and defensive tackles before they each make a case for a player they believe the Browns should take. They wrap up the podcast with a 7-round Browns-only mock draft and then peek ahead to future drafts with players they've noticed while watching this year's prospects. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:01:48:08
Should the Browns bet on Jalen Milroe? + How they view Travis Hunter
4/17/2025
Browns GM Andrew Berry held his predraft media availability on Thursday and he spoke about Alabama quarterback Jalen Milroe in glowing terms. That's where Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start recapping their reaction to Berry's pre-draft availability on Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They also discuss what Berry had to say about likely No. 2 overall pick Travis Hunter and how the Browns plan to use him. Did anything change about their thoughts on what the Browns will do at No. 2? Could they consider trading out of the pick? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:32:20
Is it better for the Browns to miss taking a quarterback or miss by passing on one?
4/16/2025
The Browns' decision at No. 2 overall in the NFL Draft is starting to become clear and it's starting to look like it won't be a quarterback. This begs the question about what's the worse outcome: taking a swing at quarterback and missing or not taking a swing and having that quarterback succeed elsewhere? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing that question. Which would be a worse outcome for the Browns when they do turn in that card on Thursday night of the draft? Then they take a peek at the second and third rounds of the draft and discuss the positions they would prioritize on Day 2 as a "must-fix" position. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:36:24
Will Travis Hunter succeed as a 2-way player and how will the Browns use him?
4/15/2025
All the buzz around the Browns and No. 2 overall pick is centering on Travis Hunter, bringing up an interesting wrinkle with the Giants, who hold the No. 3 overall pick, scheduling a last-minute private workout with Shedeur Sanders, who has also been linked to the Browns throughout the draft process. What does that workout tell us? Is it more confirmation that the Browns are passing on Sanders in favor of Hunter? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk through the top of the draft and some of the latest developments on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. After they talk about the Giants workout with Sanders, they dive into Hunter playing two ways in the NFL. How do they think the Browns will use him? Do they think he can hold up playing both positions for a large number of snaps? They also talk about trading down and building through the trenches and touch on Abdul Carter, who hasn't been in the discussion much lately for the No. 2 overall pick. #browns #nfldraft #brownsnews Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:43:24
Why would the Browns pass on Shedeur Sanders? Hey, Mary Kay!
4/14/2025
The NFL Draft is less than two weeks away and Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe are starting to have second thoughts about the direction the Browns might go with the No. 2 overall pick. They start there on the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Doesn't taking Shedeur Sanders make sense? That's the first question they answer and they discuss the dots they're connecting in starting to lean towards the Browns not taking Sanders at No. 2 overall and what it could mean for the second tier of draft prospects. If they do pass on Sanders, what direction could they go at the position? Could they acknowledge that maybe this draft won't produce their future franchise quarterback? Doesn't it make sense to just take the best player available and would it by the front office and coaching staff some time? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer those questions and more on Monday's podcast. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:45:58
Emergency Podcast: Joe Flacco is back: What his signing means for the Browns
4/11/2025
Joe Flacco is back with the Browns, signing a one-year deal on Friday and reuniting with Kevin Stefanski and Co. after the magical run they had together in 2023, when he helped them reach the playoffs. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe had to get together for an emergency podcast on Friday to discuss Flacco's signing and what it means for the Browns. Does adding Flacco change their draft strategy at all? What does it tell us about the offense with Kevin Stefanski taking more control? What are our expectations for Flacco now that he's back with the Browns? Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan go over all the aspects of Flacco coming back to Cleveland. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:34:14
How does Travis Hunter fit with the Browns? + wide receivers, running backs and tight ends and Mock Draft 2.0
4/11/2025
In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Tim Bielik, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe dive deep into the NFL Draft, focusing on potential offensive playmakers for the Browns. They start by discussing the dual-threat capabilities of Travis Hunter and the implications of selecting him over Shedeur Sanders at No. 2. Then they talk through their favorite wide receiver prospects and how they fit the Browns' needs. Then they get into the running backs the Browns could land and Tim goes over what he believes is one of the most important things to look for when evaluating running backs. The discussion then shifts to tight ends. Lastly, it's mock draft time. They go through a four-round, Browns-only mock draft and debate each pick. Approximate time stamps (AI-generated) 00:00 Introduction to the Draft Show 02:00 Travis Hunter: The Dual Threat 05:40 Evaluating Travis Hunter's Potential 11:50 The Two-Way Player Dilemma 14:07 Travis Hunter vs. Shedeur Sanders 17:03 Wide Receiver Prospects for the Browns 39:04 Exploring Running Back Options 01:07:02 Tight End Talk 01:20:04 Mock Draft Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:01:58:58
Is the Shedeur Sanders to Cleveland momentum fading?
4/9/2025
In this episode of the Orange Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the latest quarterback news for the Browns, focusing on the implications of Louis Riddick's comments regarding Shedeur Sanders and the team's draft strategy. They explore the challenges of developing quarterbacks in Cleveland, the impact of the Deshaun Watson trade, and the potential directions the team may take in the upcoming draft. The conversation highlights the complexities of the Browns' situation and the various factors influencing their decisions as they prepare for the draft. They discuss: * Louis Riddick's insights on Shador Sanders are significant. * The Browns' quarterback development history under scrutiny. * Deshaun Watson's trade has lasting implications for the team. * Kevin Stefanski's ability to develop quarterbacks. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:40:52
How the Browns should approach a decision between Shedeur Sanders and Travis Hunter
4/8/2025
The Browns appear headed for a decision between Colorado quarterback Shedeur Sanders and wide receiver/cornerback Travis Hunter at No. 2 overall in the NFL Draft. Mary Kay Cabot wrote about her opinion on Tuesday and then jumped on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast with Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe to talk about her thoughts on the matter and hear what Ashley and Dan think about the decision. They discuss why it might be better to land a good quarterback over a great player at another position and why they would take Sanders. They also talk about the risk of missing on Hunter and Penn State pass rusher Abdul Carter vs. the risk of missing the opportunity to take a good quarterback. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:32:45
Is it Shedeur Sanders or Travis Hunter for the Browns at No. 2? Hey, Mary Kay!
4/7/2025
The NFL Draft is less than three weeks away and we’re brining back our Browns draft preview podcasts with Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland. Every Friday on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, we’ll preview a different area of the draft. This week, we start with the quarterback position. Tim, Lance and Dan Labbe compare Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders at the top of the draft and talk through if Sanders is the right option for the Browns at No. 2 overall. They also go through the second tier of draft quarterbacks and some of the later-round options before they do a Browns-only mock of the first four rounds. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:40:18
Is Shedeur Sanders the answer for the Browns? Orange and Brown Talk draft preview
4/3/2025
The NFL Draft is less than three weeks away and we’re brining back our Browns draft preview podcasts with Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland. Every Friday on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, we’ll preview a different area of the draft. This week, we start with the quarterback position. Tim, Lance and Dan Labbe compare Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders at the top of the draft and talk through if Sanders is the right option for the Browns at No. 2 overall. They also go through the second tier of draft quarterbacks and some of the later-round options before they do a Browns-only mock of the first four rounds. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:01:56:57
Should the Browns wait until 2026 to draft a quarterback? Hey, Mary Kay!
4/2/2025
The Browns have done a good job of keeping their NFL Draft plans at No. 2 overall under lock and key and owner Jimmy Haslam even floated the idea of waiting until next year to fix the position. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answered questions from Football Insider subscribers on Wednesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. One of those questions: Should the Browns wait until 2026 to draft a quarterback? They discuss the importance of the position and why they both believe taking one at No. 2 is what they would do.They also answer questions about taking multiple quarterbacks in the draft before they discuss the potential of Kenny Pickett. They even answer a questions about how the Browns GM in the movie “Draft Day” would approach this draft. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:43:45
Are we really talking up Kenny Pickett as a Browns starter? Kind of
4/1/2025
The Browns first big move at quarterback this offseason was to acquire Kenny Pickett from the Eagles and now they’re starting to talk up the former Steelers draft pick as a potential Week 1 starter. In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss Pickett’s potential role as a starting quarterback. They explore the Browns’ overall quarterback strategy, including potential bridge options, and get into the long-term vision for the roster. How does Pickett fit in? They talk through all of it before they look at expectations for this season and spend some time on Kirk Cousins. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:31:13
How much blame do the Haslams get for the Deshaun Watson trade?
3/31/2025
Browns owner Jimmy Haslam admitted on Monday that the trade for Deshaun Watson was a big swing and miss and taking accountability for the mistake, leading many on social media to take it as a sign that the whole trade was the Haslams’ idea. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed how much blame the Haslams really deserve and how much should be spread around on Monday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. First, they talk about what Haslam had to say about the No. 2 overall pick and not forcing a quarterback. They also talk about Kirk Cousins getting spotted in Cleveland, if he could still be in play and if that’s even the best course of action for the Browns. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:32:59
Did Russell Wilson signing with the Giants tip the Browns’ draft plans? Hey, Mary Kay!
3/26/2025
Did the Giants signing Russell Wilson give us a hint as to what the Browns are planning to do with the second pick in the NFL Draft? That’s what at least one of our Football Insider subscribers was wondering on today’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer questions from our subscribers on the latest edition of the podcast. They discuss Wilson signing with the Giants, the Browns working out Cam Ward and if they should trade up for him and talk through some of the other options for the Browns in the draft. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:38:01
Truth and fiction in the NFL Draft + Browns choices at quarterback
3/25/2025
NFL Draft silly season in full form and, as long as the Browns are a candidate to pick quarterback Shedeur Sanders at No. 2 overall, they’ll be right in the middle of it. It happened on Monday when a social media rumor circulated about Deion Sanders and comments he likely didn’t make at a convention last week. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk draft season in 2025 and the world of high-profile quarterbacks. They also talk about Cam Ward’s pro day and if the Browns should consider making an offer to the Titans to move up to No. 1 overall before they get into more Internet rumors: Would the 49ers really trade Brandon Aiyuk? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:36:44
Resetting the QB market: What the Browns' options look like in NFL Draft, free agency
3/24/2025
The NFL Draft is a month away and the Browns are setting out on the pro day circuit this week to get an up-close look at the quarterbacks in this draft. With the veteran quarterback market slowly starting to take shape and a draft decision awaiting the Browns, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe took an opportunity to reset the quarterback market on Monday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about where things stand in the draft and free agency and how the market will develop over the next month for both the rookies and the veterans. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:38:57
Should the Browns trade up for the No. 1 pick in the draft? Hey, Mary Kay!
3/19/2025
The Browns currently hold the second pick in the 2025 NFL Draft, but should they think about moving up to the No. 1 overall pick? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss that idea and more in a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast on Wednesday. Then they turn their attention to the potential of adding Carson Wentz as another veteran option this season. Do they prefer Wentz over Flacco? Is it as crazy an idea as it sounds? They also discuss the 2016 trade the Browns made with the Eagles allowing them to draft Wentz and also get into the future of Jedrick Wills Jr. and if he could return to Cleveland. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:41:20
Assessing Browns' roster needs ahead of 2025 NFL Draft
3/18/2025
A week into free agency seems like the perfect time to re-assess the Browns roster with the draft five weeks away. Where do things look good? Where do the Browns need help? Will they get it in the draft? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe go through the roster on Tuesday’s edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They go through the positions where the Browns might need the most help and try to determine if those positions are in good enough shape heading into the season. They even spend a little time talking about Nick Chubb and if the Browns should consider bringing him back now that the market for him is slow to develop. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:36:46
Browns QB options: Veterans, draft picks and 2 in the first round?
3/17/2025
We know the Browns are very much in the quarterback market and the game of veteran quarterback musical chairs is in full swing right now. Even Jameis Winston is getting involved with a visit to the Giants on Monday. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe take a look at the quarterback market and where things stand and reset where the Browns are at on Monday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They lay out some of the veteran options that are still available and what the Browns' approach is telling us about their draft plans. Then, they talk about the Browns' options in the draft and Mary Kay throws out an idea that not many have discussed to this point. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:36:22