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Every Tuesday and Friday, tech journalist Kara Swisher and NYU Professor Scott Galloway offer sharp, unfiltered insights into the biggest stories in tech, business, and politics. They make bold predictions, pick winners and losers, and bicker and banter like no one else. After all, with great power comes great scrutiny. From New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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Every Tuesday and Friday, tech journalist Kara Swisher and NYU Professor Scott Galloway offer sharp, unfiltered insights into the biggest stories in tech, business, and politics. They make bold predictions, pick winners and losers, and bicker and banter like no one else. After all, with great power comes great scrutiny. From New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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Episodes
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Elon & Trump: The Breakup of the Summer

6/6/2025
The day has come! Kara and Scott discuss the explosion of a legendary bromance: what does it mean for the government, the economy, and most importantly, the memes? Then, a new slew of executive orders, President Trump’s trade call with China’s President Xi, and Jerome Powell faces heat from President Trump (again). We’ve got another call in show coming up! Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at ⁠nymag.com/pivot⁠. Watch this episode on the ⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠. Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠. Follow us on TikTok at ⁠@pivotpodcast⁠. Help us plan for the future of Pivot by filling out a brief survey: ⁠⁠⁠voxmedia.com/survey⁠⁠⁠. Thank you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:08:26

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Elon's Drug Denial, Trump's Tariff Play, and Taylor Swift's Master Move

6/3/2025
Kara and Scott discuss Senator Joni Ernst's callous comments about Medicaid cuts, Texas's new law requiring app stores to verify ages, and Taylor Swift's blockbuster deal to get the rights to her masters. Then, Elon leaves The White House with a literal black eye, and denies a New York Times report about his ketamine use. Plus, Trump raises tariffs yet again, and lashes out at China. Watch this episode on the ⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠. Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠ Follow us on TikTok at ⁠@pivotpodcast⁠. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at ⁠nymag.com/pivot⁠. Help us plan for the future of Pivot by filling out a brief survey: ⁠⁠⁠voxmedia.com/survey⁠⁠⁠. Thank you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:08:52

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TACO Trade, Elon's DOGE Farewell, and AI Video Gone Wild

5/30/2025
Kara and Scott discuss Trump's tariffs getting temporarily blocked, and why everyone is talking about TACO trade. Then, Elon bids farewell to DOGE, and Trump feuds with Harvard, Putin, and Tim Cook. Plus, Kara and Scott's experiment with Veo 3, Google's video generator, leads to hilarious and horrifying results. Watch this episode on the Pivot YouTube channel. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial.Follow us on Bluesky at @pivotpod.bsky.socialFollow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast.Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Help us plan for the future of Pivot by filling out a brief survey: ⁠⁠⁠voxmedia.com/survey⁠⁠⁠. Thank you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:20:36

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Monopoly Isn't A Game (with Lina Khan) - Stay Tuned with Preet

5/27/2025
Why should any of us care about monopolies? Lina Khan, the youngest-ever chair of the Federal Trade Commission, joins Preet to discuss the real-world impact of monopoly power, the surprising bipartisan support for antitrust enforcement, and her rapid rise to prominence after publishing a groundbreaking paper on Amazon's business practices during law school. Plus, Preet answers questions about the qualifications to become Surgeon General, Kid Rock's restaurant, and Bruce Springsteen. Join the Insider community to stay informed without the hysteria, fear-mongering, or rage-baiting. Sign up on our website, or find us on Substack. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website. You can now watch this episode! Head to the Stay Tuned Youtube channel and subscribe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:07:15

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Elon’s Politics Detox, the “Big, Beautiful” Bill's Next Phase, and Open AI's Big Bet

5/23/2025
Kara and Scott discuss Elon Musk’s plans to significantly reduce political spending, and his defensiveness around DOGE. They also talk about reactions to Joe Biden's cancer announcement, and have choice words about the “big, beautiful” tax bill's advance. Plus, iPhone designer Jony Ive joins OpenAI, Google announces the roll out of AI Mode, and Democrats still want their Joe Rogan. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on Bluesky at @pivotpod.bsky.social. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:22:05

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Biden's Cancer Diagnosis, U.S. Credit Downgrade, and Trump Bullies Walmart

5/20/2025
Kara and Scott discuss former President Joe Biden's cancer diagnosis, and the reactions across the political spectrum. Then, Moody's downgrades the U.S. credit rating, and Republicans try to pass Trump's "Big Beautiful Bill." Plus, Walmart and Apple face Trump's bully tactics, Meta delays its new AI model, and Novo Nordisk's CEO is out amid rising competition in the weight loss drug market. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on Bluesky at @pivotpod.bsky.social. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:07:11

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HBO Max Returns, Trump in the Middle East, and RFK Jr. Goes Swimming

5/16/2025
Kara and Scott discuss Trump’s deal-a-palooza in the Middle East, the Meta antitrust trial, and the return of HBO Max. Plus, Apple could raise iPhone prices, but without blaming tariffs, and RFK Jr. went swimming…in sewage? Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on Bluesky at @pivotpod.bsky.social. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:12:41

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U.S.-China Trade Deal, Trump's Plane Grift, and the American Pope

5/13/2025
Kara and Scott discuss the U.S. and China temporarily putting their trade war on hold, and evaluate the damage that's been done. Then, Trump is poised to accept a jet from Qatar to be the new Air Force One. Is this his griftiest grift yet? Plus, Pope Leo shares his thoughts on AI, Newark Airport chaos continues, and Elizabeth Holmes's partner starts a company that claims to be "the future of diagnostics." Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial.Follow us on Bluesky at @pivotpod.bsky.socialFollow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast.Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:12:48

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AMD CEO Lisa Su on the “Dead Sexy” AI Chips Race - On with Kara Swisher

5/10/2025
In 2014, when Lisa Su took over as CEO of Advanced Micro Devices, AMD was on the verge of bankruptcy. Su bet hard on hardware and not only pulled the semiconductor company back from the brink, but also led it to surpass its historical rival, Intel, in market cap. Since the launch of ChatGPT made high-powered chips like AMDs “sexy” again, demand for chips has intensified exponentially, but so has the public spotlight on the industry — including from the federal government. In a live conversation, at the Johns Hopkins University Bloomberg Center, as part of their inaugural Discovery Series, Kara talks to Su about her strategy in face of the Trump administration’s tariff and export control threats, how to safeguard the US in the global AI race, and what she says when male tech leaders brag about the size of their GPUs. Listen to more from On with Kara Swisher here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:00:52:47

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OpenAI Abandons For-Profit Plans, Disney and Uber Earnings, and Meta’s “Creepy” AI

5/9/2025
Kara and Scott discuss rising tensions between India and Pakistan, OpenAI abandoning its for-profit plans, and President Trump’s meeting with Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney. Then, Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard’s sloppy passwords, the Gates Foundation’s end date, and the latest earnings from Disney and Uber. Plus, Kara and Scott react to your predictions! Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on Bluesky at @pivotpod.bsky.social. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:17:38

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Trump's Movie Tariffs, Buffett's Retirement, and Elon's New City

5/6/2025
Kara and Scott discuss President Trump saying he doesn't know if he's required to uphold the Constitution, and his plan to put tariffs on movies made overseas. Then, Warren Buffett's surprise announcement that he's stepping down as CEO of Berkshire Hathaway, after 60 years at the helm. Plus, Apple and Amazon earnings, Elon's new city in Texas, and Mark Zuckerberg explains why he prefers to "rawdog" reality. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on Bluesky at @pivotpod.bsky.social. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:10:54

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Elon's Tesla Board Drama, Microsoft and Meta Earnings, and Bezos Bends the Knee

5/2/2025
Kara and Scott discuss a report that Tesla’s board considered replacing Musk as CEO, President Trump’s contentious ABC interview, and Apple’s violation of an order in the Epic Games antitrust case. Then, Microsoft and Meta earnings are in, and Trump is blaming former President Biden for the economy. Plus, Jeff Bezos bends the knee to the Trump administration. Send us your predictions! Calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or visit nymag.com/pivot. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on Bluesky at @pivotpod.bsky.social. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:08:11

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Trump's Meme Coin Scheme, Alphabet's Earnings, and Cybertruck's Competition

4/29/2025
Kara and Scott break down Alphabet's strong earnings, and why the company continues to dominate. Then, the Trump meme coin grift that's raising serious corruption questions. Plus, Trump appears to flip on Ukraine, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent says all the tariff chaos is just "strategic uncertainty," and the new, affordable, all-American EV truck. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial.Follow us on Bluesky at @pivotpod.bsky.socialFollow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast.Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:10:11

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Elon Steps Back from DOGE, Wall Street Whiplash, and Meta’s Antitrust Trial Continues

4/25/2025
Kara and Scott discuss Elon Musk's decision to step back from DOGE focus on Tesla, Instagram co-founder Kevin Systrom’s testimony in the Meta antitrust trial, and late Zappos co-founder Tony Hsieh’s newly found will. Plus, Sarah Palin loses her defamation retrial against the New York Times, and another whiplash week on Wall Street. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on Bluesky at @pivotpod.bsky.social. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:23:27

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Signalgate Sequel, Trump's Baby Boom Plans, and Netflix Earnings

4/22/2025
Kara and Scott discuss Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth getting caught up in another Signal scandal, Tesla’s latest setbacks, and whether Google will have to spin off Chrome. Then, they dive into a busy few days for the Trump administration — from getting blocked on deportations by the Supreme Court, to reportedly planning an overhaul of the State Department, to taking suggestions on how spark the next baby boom. Plus, do Netflix’s Q1 earnings prove the streaming giant is tariff-proof? Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on Bluesky at @pivotpod.bsky.social. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:12:32

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Elon’s Harem, Trump v. Harvard, and Zuckerberg on the Stand

4/18/2025
Kara and Scott discuss President Trump lashing out at Fed Chair Jerome Powell, The White House asking the IRS to revoke Harvard’s tax exempt status, and Elon Musk trying to build an army of super-babies. Then, Nvidia says it will start producing AI supercomputers in the U.S., Mark Zuckerberg takes the witness stand, and a federal judge rules that Google acted illegally to maintain a monopoly in some online advertising technology. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on Bluesky at @pivotpod.bsky.social. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:15:59

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Tariff Twists and Turns, Meta Antitrust Trial, and Blue Origin Girls' Trip

4/15/2025
Kara and Scott discuss the latest tariff confusion, with Trump flip flopping on tech exemptions, and warning of more tariffs to come. Then, the FTC's blockbuster antitrust trial against Meta gets underway. Will Meta eventually have to spin off Instagram and WhatsApp? Plus, Blue Origin's all-female flight lifts off, and Bill Maher goes to Washington for dinner with Trump. Help Pivot win Best Business Podcast at the Webbys! Vote here Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on Bluesky at @pivotpod.bsky.social Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:16:23

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Demis Hassabis on AI, Game Theory, Multimodality, and the Nature of Creativity | Possible

4/12/2025
How can AI help us understand and master deeply complex systems—from the game Go, which has 10 to the power 170 possible positions a player could pursue, or proteins, which, on average, can fold in 10 to the power 300 possible ways? This week, Reid and Aria are joined by Demis Hassabis. Demis is a British artificial intelligence researcher, co-founder, and CEO of the AI company, DeepMind. Under his leadership, DeepMind developed Alpha Go, the first AI to defeat a human world champion in Go and later created AlphaFold, which solved the 50-year-old protein folding problem. He's considered one of the most influential figures in AI. Demis, Reid, and Aria discuss game theory, medicine, multimodality, and the nature of innovation and creativity. For more info on the podcast and transcripts of all the episodes, visit https://www.possible.fm/podcast/ Listen to more from Possible here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:00:49

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Trump's Tariff Pause, Apple's Highs and Lows, and Musk v. Navarro

4/11/2025
Kara and Scott discuss President Trump pausing tariffs for 90 days, the escalating trade war with China, and the fallout for Apple amidst the tariff chaos. Then, Elon Musk and trade adviser Peter Navarro are feuding, but it’s okay, because as The White House says, “boys will be boys.” Plus, how SCOTUS is (mostly) cutting the red tape for Trump. Note: After this episode was recorded on Thursday, The White House said the tariff rate for China is now at 145%. It will likely change again. Many times. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on Bluesky at @pivotpod.bsky.social. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:02:45

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Market Meltdown, Tariff Winners and Losers, and TikTok Deadline Delayed

4/8/2025
Kara and Scott discuss the markets' wild ride thanks to Trump's tariffs, China's retaliation plans, and Howard Lutnick's theory about a manufacturing resurgence coming to the United States. Then, a deeper dive into some of the tariff winners (Warren Buffett), and losers (Big Tech), and some advice for panicked investors. Plus, the TikTok deadline gets extended yet again. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on Bluesky at @pivotpod.bsky.social. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:01:07:07