And That's Why We Drink

What’s the 411? Episode 411 that is! This week Em is bringing the Christmas creepiness with the tale of Hans Trapp. If you thought Krampus was scary, wait until you hear about this French Christmas character! Then Christine brings us to Cedar Rapids, Iowa for the not so cold case of Michelle Martinko. And who else agrees A Christmas Carol would be much better with Tiny Tim Soprano? …and that’s why we drink! The Pour Decisions Tour is going back on the road this Spring! Like a Lady in White, we’ll be popping up everywhere - from Seattle to Boston. Grab your tickets today at https://www.andthatswhywedrink.com/live ! For ways to order our new book: A Haunted Road Atlas: Next Stop visit https://bit.ly/hranextstop ______________________ Save on the perfect gift by visiting http://auraframes.com to get $35-off Aura’s best-selling CarverMat frames by using promo code DRINK at checkout. Enjoy the holidays while keeping your financial goals on track with Chime. Open your account in 2 minutes at http://chime.com/DRINK . Chime. Feels like progress. Banking services and debit card provided by The Bancorp Bank, N.A. or StrideBank, N.A.; Members FDIC. SpotMe eligibility requirements and overdraft limits apply. Direct deposit timing depends on submission of payment file. Boosts are available to eligible Chime members enrolled in SpotMe® and are subject to monthly limits. Fees apply at out-of-network ATMs and for OTC withdrawals. DraftKings is offering a warm welcome to new players with $100 INSTANTLY IN CASINO CREDITS with just a $10 wager. Plus, EVERYONE can get in on the action with a holiday reward every week! So, sign up with code ATWWD because the holiday cheer is here! Only on DraftKings Casino. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. In Connecticut, help is available for problem gambling call 888-789-7777 or visit CCPG.org. Please play responsibly. 21+. Physically present in Connecticut, Michigan, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, West Virginia only. Void in Ontario. Eligibility restrictions apply. New customers only. Opt-in required. Casino Credits are non-withdrawable and expire in 168 hours. Terms at http://casino.draftkings.com/promos . SimpliSafe is extending its massive Black Friday deal for our listeners. This week only, you can get 50% off any new system with a select professional monitoring plan. This is your last chance to claim their best offer of the year! Head to http://simplisafe.com/drink. There’s no safe like SimpliSafe® Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to http://rocketmoney.com/drink today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What’s the 411? Episode 411 that is! This week Em is bringing the Christmas creepiness with the tale of Hans Trapp. If you thought Krampus was scary, wait until you hear about this French Christmas character! Then Christine brings us to Cedar Rapids, Iowa for the not so cold case of Michelle Martinko. And who else agrees A Christmas Carol would be much better with Tiny Tim Soprano? …and that’s why we drink! The Pour Decisions Tour is going back on the road this Spring! Like a Lady in White, we’ll be popping up everywhere - from Seattle to Boston. Grab your tickets today at https://www.andthatswhywedrink.com/live ! For ways to order our new book: A Haunted Road Atlas: Next Stop visit https://bit.ly/hranextstop ______________________ Save on the perfect gift by visiting http://auraframes.com to get $35-off Aura’s best-selling CarverMat frames by using promo code DRINK at checkout. Enjoy the holidays while keeping your financial goals on track with Chime. Open your account in 2 minutes at http://chime.com/DRINK . Chime. Feels like progress. Banking services and debit card provided by The Bancorp Bank, N.A. or StrideBank, N.A.; Members FDIC. SpotMe eligibility requirements and overdraft limits apply. Direct deposit timing depends on submission of payment file. Boosts are available to eligible Chime members enrolled in SpotMe® and are subject to monthly limits. Fees apply at out-of-network ATMs and for OTC withdrawals. DraftKings is offering a warm welcome to new players with $100 INSTANTLY IN CASINO CREDITS with just a $10 wager. Plus, EVERYONE can get in on the action with a holiday reward every week! So, sign up with code ATWWD because the holiday cheer is here! Only on DraftKings Casino. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. In Connecticut, help is available for problem gambling call 888-789-7777 or visit CCPG.org. Please play responsibly. 21+. Physically present in Connecticut, Michigan, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, West Virginia only. Void in Ontario. Eligibility restrictions apply. New customers only. Opt-in required. Casino Credits are non-withdrawable and expire in 168 hours. Terms at http://casino.draftkings.com/promos . SimpliSafe is extending its massive Black Friday deal for our listeners. This week only, you can get 50% off any new system with a select professional monitoring plan. This is your last chance to claim their best offer of the year! Head to http://simplisafe.com/drink. There’s no safe like SimpliSafe® Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to http://rocketmoney.com/drink today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s Episode 410 and we just want to be hot potatoes in a prime nap zone. Today Em brings us the wild hauntings of an elementary school turned steakhouse saloon, the Adobe Deli, formerly the Lewis Flats School in New Mexico. Then Christine brings us the case of Mike Barajas, where the murderer will do anything to get from A to B. And don’t forget the three R’s, Respect, Rat Catching, and Rattlesnake Wrangling …and that’s why we drink! The Pour Decisions Tour is going back on the road this Spring! Catch us in a whole new batch of cities from Seattle to Boston. Get your tickets today at https://www.andthatswhywedrink.com/live ______________________ Go to http://zbiotics.com/DRINK to learn more and get 15% off your first order when you use DRINK at checkout. Save on the perfect gift by visiting http://auraframes.com to get $35-off Aura’s best-selling CarverMat frames by using promo code DRINK at checkout. Stress less, sleep more, and live better with Calm. Get 40% off a Calm Premium Subscription at http://calm.com/DRINK Go to BLUENILE.com to shop Blue Nile, the original online jeweler since 1999! Enjoy the holidays while keeping your financial goals on track with Chime. Open your account in 2 minutes at http://chime.com/DRINK Chime. Feels like progress. Banking services and debit card provided by The Bancorp Bank, N.A. or StrideBank, N.A.; Members FDIC. SpotMe eligibility requirements and overdraft limits apply. Direct deposit timing depends on submission of payment file. Boosts are available to eligible Chime members enrolled in SpotMe® and are subject to monthly limits. Fees apply at out-of-network ATMs and for OTC withdrawals. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Thanks for tuning in to 98.ATWWD where Christmastime is here and so is Episode 409. Today Em brings us the story of the haunted Sword Gate House in Charleston. Then Christine covers the heavy case of the murder of Erik Poltorak. And are you all as obsessed with gift wrapping rooms as us? Let us know! …and that’s why we drink! Love our banter and want to hear more? Join us on Patreon for our weekly Yappy Hour bonus episodes on Mondays every week! Visit https://www.patreon.com/ATWWDPodcast to join today! ______________________ Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @lumedeodorant and get 15% off with promo code DRINK at http://lumepodcast.com/DRINK #lumepodGift luxury this holiday season without the luxury price tag. Go to http://quince.com/drink for 365-day returns, plus free shipping on your order. Audible. There’s more to imagine when you listen. Go to http://audible.com/DRINK and discover all the year’s best waiting for you. DraftKings is offering a warm welcome to new players with $100 INSTANTLY IN CASINO CREDITS with just a $10 wager. Plus, EVERYONE can get in on the action with a holiday reward every week! So, sign up with code ATWWD because the holiday cheer is here! Only on DraftKings Casino. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. In Connecticut, help is available for problem gambling call 888-789-7777 or visit CCPG.org. Please play responsibly. 21+. Physically present in Connecticut, Michigan, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, West Virginia only. Void in Ontario. Eligibility restrictions apply. New customers only. Opt-in required. Casino Credits are non-withdrawable and expire in 168 hours. Terms at http://casino.draftkings.com/promos Exclusive $35-off Carver Mat at AuraFrames.com. Use code DRINK at checkout to save! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

PASS! The Cranberry Sauce, it’s Episode 408 and we are definitely more certain about what a pilgrim is than a mulberry bush. Today Em takes us to Maryland for the haunted Hampton House where the ghosts seem to move themselves in. Then Christine brings us the upsetting and plot twist filled case of Sarah Stern. And to all the Cygnets and Scorpios out there, Christine is here for you… and that’s why we drink!Don’t miss the last chance to see our Pour Decisions Tour for this year in San Francisco and San Diego THIS WEEK! Get your tickets at: www.andthatswhywedrink.com/live ______________________ Exclusive $45-off Carver Mat at http://AuraFrames.com Use code DRINK at checkout to save! This exclusive Black Friday Cyber Monday deal is their best of the year, so don’t miss out! Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/DRINK Enjoy the holidays while keeping your financial goals on track with Chime. Open your account in 2 minutes at http://chime.com/DRINK Chime. Feels like progress. Go to BlueNile.com to shop Blue Nile, the original online jeweler since 1999! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Christmas tiiiiimeeee is hereeee. Happy December everyone! This month Eva has collected an awesome and wild batch of stories for us from SWAT team and police standoffs, to men in the ceiling and grandpas in the floorboards, plus some aeronautical engineer insights into UFOs? It’s a doozy! So may the aliens be friendly when they approach us and cheers to kicking off the last month of the year… and that’s why we drink! Don’t miss the last chance to see our Pour Decisions Tour for this year in San Francisco and San Diego THIS WEEK! Get your tickets at: www.andthatswhywedrink.com/live ______________________ Exclusive $45-off Carver Mat at http://AuraFrames.com Use code DRINK at checkout to save! This exclusive Black Friday Cyber Monday deal is their best of the year, so don’t miss out! Pretty Litter’s amazing! You have to try it. Save 20% on your first order and get a free cat toy with code ATWWD at https://PrettyLitter.com/atwwd To take advantage of their best sale of the year for up to 30% off your entire order, go to Blueland.com/DRINK Cut your wireless bit to just 15 bucks a month for the first 3 months as a new customer by going to MintMobile.com/DRINK Stop putting off those doctors appointments and go to Zocdoc.com/DRINK to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s Episode 407 and we’re just skeletons trying our best. This week Em takes us to Mississippi for the wild hauntings of the Cahill Mansion/the Gregory House, which is said to be “a house that has more issues than Vogue”. Then Christine covers the upsetting Part 2 of the Jaycee Lee Dugard kidnapping that just makes us need to say that women are SO strong. And look out for our humorous humerus jokes this week …and that’s why we drink! Come join us for our final two fall shows of The Pour Decisions Tour which is sure to bring plenty of gasps, laughs, and frights! Get your tickets at: andthatswhywedrink.com/live ! ______________________ Get cozy in Quince's high-quality wardrobe essentials. Go to Quince.com/drink for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Unlock your best skin with @‌iRestorelaser and save on their biggest offer of the year at irestorelaser.com/DRINK #irestorepod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s Episode 405 and we need to know how many pieces of candy are in 15lbs worth? This week Em has ruined their algorithm to bring us the wild story of the Dildo Monster aka the Monster of Dildo Pond from Newfoundland. Then Christine takes us to Minnesota for the unfortunate case of the kidnapping of Jacob Wetterling. And have you seen our legs? …and that’s why we drink!Only a few live shows left this Fall! Come join us for The Pour Decisions Tour which is sure to bring plenty of gasps, laughs, and frights! Get your tickets at: andthatswhywedrink.com/live ! ______________________ Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/DRINK Get cozy in Quince's high-quality wardrobe essentials. Go to Quince.com/drink for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Unlock your best skin with @iRestorelaser and save on their biggest offer of the year at irestorelaser.com/WEDRINK #irestorepod Go to zbiotics.com/DRINK to learn more and get 15% off your first order when you use DRINK at checkout. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Happy November, Boozers and Shakers! Well, happy early November, and while we’re on the topic, please go vote. We literally just Google “how to vote”, “where am I?” and “who am I?” so that should cover all your bases. But onto the stories! This month we have some fun and haunting tales about staircases to nowhere, hospital backrooms, invented cryptids and more! Join us before all the big family gatherings full of food and weird relatives, although, wait, we did just eat an entire rotisserie chicken in a cemetery… and that’s why we drink! Please go vote on Tuesday! Resources and info at vote.orgCut your wireless bill to 15 bucks a month at MINTMOBILE.com/drink. Blueland has a special offer for listeners. Right now, get 15% off your first order by going to Blueland.com/DRINK. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Turn on the goosecam meter and pour one out for Snippy, because MC Hircine Shifter and Lisa Frank’s Muppet are here to read a collection of cryptid poems for our 4th Annual Cryptids Unscripted Poetry Slam! Bigfoot is in his feelings, Sinkole Sam’s sheen is out of this world, and lonely Mothman isn’t the only one whose heart is soft tonight. So don’t forget to tip your Startenders and keep an eye out for Lemon’s not so Hello Fresh face… and that’s why we drink! Thank you to all who submitted for our throwback to the classic And That’s Why We Draws with your Poorly Drawn Cryptids submissions - we’ve featured a few of our favorites in this episode. This holiday season, give the gift of answers and wrap up the mystery of your dog’s DNA. Get the Dog DNA Test that’s got everyone barking, head to EmbarkVet.com and use code DRINK to save $65 on Embark’s Breed + Health Test and get free shipping. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Six Strangers. One Cursed Playlist. Ultimate Power—or Certain Death. Drawn by a mysterious letter promising the power to control the dead, six strangers arrive at a hidden location with one task: survive a binge-listening session. Their key to unlocking this dark magic? The Necronomicon iPod, a macabre piece of technology loaded with a supernatural playlist. Meet the crew: a die-hard podcast fan, quirky cat dad, skeptical ghost hunter, spiritual healer, unreliable flake, and dramatic entertainer. They must endure each eerie episode, but as secrets are revealed, not all may make it out alive. This horror-comedy event features exclusive segments from fan-favorite podcasts: And That's Why We Drink, Two Girls One Ghost, Creeps and Crimes, Ladies & Tangents, and Live, Laugh, Larceny. Will they unlock undead power—or will the playlist claim their souls? Tune in to this all-star podcast holiday event for a supernatural audio adventure like no other! Written and Produced by Trevin Bartee of Live, Laugh, Larceny Original art by Sadie Kern of PopGunFlo https://www.popgunflo.com Voice Cast: Alecia Watson of Twisted and Uncorked https://www.twistedanduncorked.com/ Cassie Hahn of PNW Haunts and Homicides https://www.pnwhauntsandhomicides.com/ Kaydra Brannan of Perplexity: A Mystery Podcast https://perplexitymysteryp.wixsite.com/perplexity Trevin Bartee of Live, Laugh, Larceny Amanda Rose of Live, Laugh, Larceny Christine Schiefer of And That's Why We Drink and Beach Too Sandy, Water Too Wet Playlist Details: EP 1: Creeps and Crimes - The Halloween Massacre of 1962 https://www.creepsandcrimespodcast.com Dive into the chilling urban legend of the Halloween Massacre of 1962 with hosts Taylar Fetzner and Morgan Mounts. In this episode, Creeps and Crimes unearths haunting details of a massacre blending true crime and eerie folklore. Taylar and Morgan lighten the mood with a nostalgic debate over Halloween movies. Are you team Hocus Pocus or Halloweentown? Tune in for a mix of creepy thrills and nostalgic chills! EP 2: Two Girls One Ghost - Daruma-san: The Bath Game https://www.twogirlsoneghost.com Two Girls One Ghost hosts Corinne Vien and Sabrina Deana-Roga explore paranormal games with Daruma-san: The Bath Game. Learn the eerie, step-by-step process of this ritual, where a simple bath can summon a vengeful Japanese ghost. Ghostly apparitions, sinister hair-washing rituals, and spooky folklore—what could go wrong? EP 3: Live, Laugh, Larceny: A True Petty Crime Podcast - The Monster Mash at Bootsy Bellows https://www.Livelaughlarceny.com Amanda and Trevin bring to life the chaotic incident at Bootsy Bellows, set against Bobby “Boris” Pickett's Halloween classic, “The Monster Mash.” This performance explores the events leading to a mass evacuation at the Aspen nightclub, turning Halloween into a night of chaos. With their comedic parody style, Amanda and Trevin show how fun quickly spirals into a petty crime caper, leaving you laughing and shivering. EP 4: Ladies & Tangents - Creepy Myths and Urban Legends https://www.ladiesandtangents.com Join Jeri and Ciara as they mix laughs and tangents while exploring creepy myths and urban legends. In this episode, the ladies uncover chilling truths behind tales like Anne Boleyn's beheading, King Tut's curse, and a local warlock. Get ready to navigate the line between fear and humor as they take you from terror to laughter. EP 5: And That's Why We Drink - Real Scary Stories https://www.Andthatswhywedrink.com Hosts Christine Schiefer and Em Schulz discuss terrifying stories. Drawing from a House Beautiful article and chilling fan accounts, Christine shares tales of slithering villains, a spirit-sensing dog, and a mourning circle of cats. This blend of humor and horror will keep you questioning late-night strolls. Good luck sleeping after this one! Support all of these amazing shows and have a happy Halloween! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's Episode 402 and we're throwing a sardine on it to feel something. This week Em is bringing it back to episode 400, but instead of tales of a pasta psychic - they tell us all about the one and only Asparamancer, Jemima Packington! Then Christine covers Part 1 of the shocking case of Victoria Cilliers. And don't forget to take a nap, drink some water, eat a banana and maybe have a little gin... and that's why we drink! Come see our brand new live show: The Pour Decisions Tour which is sure to bring plenty of gasps, laughs, and frights! Get your tickets at: http://andthatswhywedrink.com/live! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to Episode 400 plus an extra and this week we’re letting Satan take the wheel. Today Em brings us a classic possession that has us saying “Thanks Priests!” with the story of the Possession of Don Decker. Then Christine takes us to Alabama, and all over the U.S., with the topsy-turvy case of Audrey Marie Hilley. And is picture day outdated now?… and that’s why we drink! Come see our brand new live show: The Pour Decisions Tour which is sure to bring plenty of gasps, laughs, and frights! Get your tickets at: http://andthatswhywedrink.com/live ! Mothman? More like moth SLAM - poetry! Don't just scream your creepy cryptid slam poetry verses into the void, send them to us at: atwwdfromourcouches@gmail.com for a chance to be featured in our Cryptids Unscripted special! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s Episode 399 and there’s drama in Chair City! Today Em takes us to Massachusetts for the tale of the haunted S.K. Pierce Mansion, complete with a ghost who paints. Then Christine brings us her very first case update (and recap) all the way back from Episode 15 with the story of Gypsy-Rose Blanchard. And have we always been in an apple orchard? Our Ovilus seems to think so… and that’s why we drink! Our new book A Haunted Road Atlas: Next Stop is finally here! Check out your local indie bookstore or visit bit.ly/HRANextStop to get your copy today! Come see our brand new live show: The Pour Decisions Tour which is sure to bring plenty of gasps, laughs, and frights! Get your tickets at: andthatswhywedrink.com/live Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s Episode 399 and there’s drama in Chair City! Today Em takes us to Massachusetts for the tale of the haunted S.K. Pierce Mansion, complete with a ghost who paints. Then Christine brings us her very first case update (and recap) all the way back from Episode 15 with the story of Gypsy-Rose Blanchard. And have we always been in an apple orchard? Our Ovilus seems to think so… and that’s why we drink! Our new book A Haunted Road Atlas: Next Stop is finally here! Check out your local indie bookstore or visit bit.ly/HRANextStop to get your copy today! Come see our brand new live show: The Pour Decisions Tour which is sure to bring plenty of gasps, laughs, and frights! Get your tickets at: andthatswhywedrink.com/live

It's episode 290 and we're officially in the Troll Hole! This week Em brings us some nicks, knacks, nooks and crannies as well as the scary story of the Moundsville Penitentiary, just down the street from Mothman's hometown in West Virginia. Then Christine starts a two-parter for us on the wild and chilling tale of the Children of Thunder. Tune in to find out the most Gemini rule of all time... and that's why we drink! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's episode 239 and we've got some big stories for you! First Em covers the history of famed paranormal investigators Ed and Lorraine Warren (including the Conjuring universe). Then Christine brings us the first in a two part series on Amanda Knox. Also, Eva may or may not still be in the Zoom waiting room... and that's why we drink! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Paint us like one of your French aliens, Jack... this week episode 237 has us traveling to Em's favorite place of all time, Canada, for the Falcon Lake Incident. Then Christine brings us a story that's less about teeth than it seems in the tale of the Killing Dentist aka Glennon Engleman aka a serial killer with a hobby career as a dentist. And lastly, stay to the very end to hear just exactly how to impress Em with a skateboard and a pair of moon boots... and that's why we drink! Please consider supporting the companies that support us! If you go to Reliefband.com and use promo code DRINK you’ll receive 20% off plus free shipping and a no questions asked 30-day money back guarantee!Helix is offering up to $200 off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners at Helix Sleep.com/drinkTry 5 pairs of glasses at home for free at warbyparker.com/drinkDownload the 5 star-rated puzzle game, Best Fiends FREE today on the App Store or Google Play!Go to Framebridge.com and use promo code DRINK to save an additional 15% off your first order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are the Village People this week! It's episode 236 and Em is taking us across the pond to tell the tale of a village full of ghosts known as Pluckley Village. Then Christine brings us a wildly disturbing cult in a Mexican village in the 60s that Em dubs Madame LaLaurie-esque, the story of Magdalena Solís. And also be sure to stay til the very end to hear what size Christine's baby is this week... and that's why we drink! Please consider supporting the companies that support us! Go to Canva.me/atwwd to get your FREE 45-day extended trial!Right now, Modern Fertility is offering our listeners $20 off the test when you go to ModernFertility.com/DRINKGo to THIRDLOVE.com/DRINK now to find your perfect-fitting bra... and get 20% off your first purchase!Go to Brooklinen.com and use promo code ATWWD to get $20 off, with a minimum purchase of $100!This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp and And That’s Why We Drinklisteners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/DRINKJust go to ZipRecruiter.com/drink to try ZipRecruiter for free! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Robert Courtney was an upstanding Kansas City pharmacist and family man who was deeply devoted to his church. Courtney owned and operated two pharmacies and was perceived as an innovative businessman. His wealth was apparent to people in Kansas City in the 90’s— he lived in a $700,000 home and collected sports cars. It all came crashing down in 2001 when an oncologist discovered that Courtney had been diluting chemotherapy medications. She tipped off the FBI and the Courtney investigation...