
Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast
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Get the latest news and analysis about the Cleveland Browns from Mary Kay Cabot, Dan Labbe, Scott Patsko, Ashley Bastock and special guests on cleveland.com
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Get the latest news and analysis about the Cleveland Browns from Mary Kay Cabot, Dan Labbe, Scott Patsko, Ashley Bastock and special guests on cleveland.com
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@clevelanddotcom
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English
Email:
sports@cleveland.com
Episodes
Would Browns QB Dillon Gabriel have been drafted higher if he were taller? Hey, Mary Kay!
5/13/2025
The Browns know the who with their schedule and Wednesday night they'll find out the when after the NFL releases its schedule. They already know one game -- Week 5 against the Vikings in London. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talk about the schedule release on a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast on Tuesday. They discuss the challenges of playing the Vikings in London before they look at some of this rookie class. Would Dillon Gabriel have been a first-round pick if he were only a little taller? Which non-quarterbacks stood out at rookie minicamp? Did the Browns draft some dogs in this class? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:41:27
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah will miss 2025; now what for JOK and the Browns?
5/12/2025
The Browns will be without Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah in 2025 and his football future is in doubt after they placed him on the reserve/PUP list. That's where Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin their Monday podcast. They talk about Owusu-Koramoah the player and the person and how the Browns will replace him and if there's hope he could play again. They get into all the things Owusu-Koramoah meant to this defense. Then they take an abbreviated look back at rookie minicamp and talk about the discourse on the quarterbacks after they practiced for the first time with the Browns. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:32:49
Browns rookie quarterbacks Dillon Gabriel, Shedeur Sanders take center stage at rookie minicamp
5/10/2025
It was quarterback day on the second day of Browns rookie minicamp. Third-round pick Dillon Gabriel and fifth-round pick Shedeur sanders took center stage on Saturday when they spoke to the media before practice. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the day in their daily video report following the second practice of the weekend. They talked about what they heard from Gabriel and Sanders and what it said about each player’s approach to the quarterback competition. They also touched on a few other things some draft picks did, including defensive lineman Mason Graham throwing up during practice and linebacker Carson Schwesinger intercepting Gabriel. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:36:13
What we learned about Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders at Browns rookie minicamp
5/9/2025
The Browns opened their rookie minicamp on Friday and, unsurprisingly, the two rookie quarterbacks, third-round pick Dillon Gabriel and fifth-round pick Shedeur Sanders, took center stage. Neither of them spoke to the media but they did practice for the first time in Browns uniforms. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed the day on Friday’s rookie minicamp recap Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They discussed the early pecking order of the two and why it matters who takes reps when, even if head coach Kevin Stefanski disagrees, and discuss what you can and can’t learn in rookie minicamp. They also touch on what they saw and heard from other Browns rookies on Friday. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:29:47
What to expect from Browns rookie minicamp this weekend
5/8/2025
The Browns are holding their rookie minicamp this weekend at the team facility in Berea, offering the first opportunity to get a look at their 2025 rookie class up close. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe previewed rookie minicamp on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, looking ahead to what they’re really paying attention to this weekend when they hear from rookies and watch them practice. They talked about the quarterback battle and how this weekend impacts that as well as the other rookies and why Browns fans could really find themselves falling in love with members of this draft class once they take the field. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:34:52
The Shedeur Sanders experience is coming to the Browns
5/7/2025
The Shedeur Sanders era really gets started for the Browns this weekend when they hold their rookie minicamp. Sanders and the rest of the team’s rookie class will be in town for their first taste of life in the NFL. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the Sanders experience and what the Browns and Browns fans can expect with Sanders around and the celebrity he brings with him on Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They discuss all the noise around Sanders and how he and the Browns will deal with it.They wrap up by taking a detour into the most surprising losses they’ve seen in-person. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:43:27
Do the Browns have room for all 4 quarterbacks? Hey, Mary Kay!
5/5/2025
The Browns will hold their rookie minicamp this weekend in Berea and we’ll get our first look at two of their four quarterbacks when Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders take the field. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discussed the quarterback room and the coming quarterback competition on Monday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talked about the early quarterback pecking order and whether the Browns can go into the season with four quarterbacks on the roster. They also talk about the addition of wide receiver Diontae Johnson before they talk about the potential future of Nick Chubb and why the Browns aren’t the best fit for their long-time veteran who is currently a free agent. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:38:53
Why did the Browns gamble on Shedeur Sanders?
5/1/2025
The Browns made headlines on Saturday during the NFL Draft when they traded up and selected Colorado's Shedeur Sanders, a move made more surprising because the Browns picked Dillon Gabriel in the third round on Friday. What were they thinking? Tim Bielik, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe discussed the quarterback selections on Part 2 of their draft recap podcast. What did they see in Gabriel? Why double down and pick Sanders? Did being so aggressive at quarterback leave the draft feeling short?They dig into all of it on this draft recap podcast. Listen to the first part on our YouTube channel, Apple podcasts or Spotify. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:01:01:27
What did the Browns tell us with their NFL Draft strategy?
4/30/2025
Our NFL Draft review week continues on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast with Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland joining our Wednesday edition of the pod to look at what the Browns did over the weekend. Lance, Tim and Dan Labbe go through the Browns' non-quarterback picks and dissect what they bring to the Browns and what they indicate for the direction the team is headed in 2025. They discuss the trade-down decision that resulted in Mason Graham and more picks, the two running backs they added and how they fit together and the addition of Harold Fannin Jr. This is Part 1 of a 2-part podcast. The three discuss the quarterback decisions on tomorrow's podcast. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:53:47
Did the Browns win their trade down with Jacksonville?
4/29/2025
The Browns started off the 2025 NFL Draft with a bang, trading down from No. 2 overall, acquiring the fifth pick, which they used on Mason Graham, the two picks they used on Quinshon Judkins and Dylan Sampson and a 2026 first-round pick. Did they already win the trade? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe looked back on the trade with some hindsight on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They also talk about some of the other draft moves the Browns made and discuss if it made sense for this team to take two quarterbacks and two running backs, Nick Chubb's future and more. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:33:19
Why did the Browns pick two quarterbacks in the NFL Draft?
4/28/2025
The Browns took two quarterbacks in the NFL Draft over the weekend and both qualified as surprises, first picking Dillon Gabriel at No. 94 and then trading up to take Shedeur Sanders at No. 144. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about the choice to pick two quarterbacks on an Orange and Brown Talk draft recap podcast, kicking off a week of draft recap pods. They discuss why the Browns picked two quarterbacks, who they seem to favor based on where they picked them and how a four-person quarterback competition is going to play out. #browns #nfl #brownsnews #clevelandbrownsnews #nfldraft Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:45:08
Emergency pod: Browns trade up and take Shedeur Sanders in the NFL Draft
4/26/2025
The Browns made headlines on Saturday when they traded their last two picks on Day 3 of the NFL Draft to move up to No. 144 overall and pick Colorado quarterback Shedeur Sanders. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to the Browns' decision to trade up and acqure Sanders in a quick emergency podcast on Saturday. They start by taking you inside the moment the Browns made the trade up while three of their four draft picks were being introduced in a press conference and our reactions mid-press conference to the trade. Then they get into the addition of Sanders and what it means and how the Browns will balance the reality of Sanders being a fifth-round pick alongside all of the things that come with adding Sanders to the team. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:22:50
Why did the Browns pick Dillon Gabriel on Friday in the NFL Draft?
4/26/2025
The Browns wrapped up what was setting up to be a solid Day 2 of the NFL Draft by taking Oregon quarterback Dillon Gabriel at No. 94, a head-scratching move that left many wondering what they were thinking. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their recap podcast by discussing the decision to take Gabriel and why they think the Browns made the pick, how they could have better used the pick and why Gabriel was the quarterback the Browns had to have. They also recap the other picks they made that made Friday such a promising day before the Gabriel pick. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:23:31
What was the thinking behind the Browns' trade down?
4/25/2025
The Browns traded out of the No. 2 overall pick on Thursday night and selected Michigan's Mason Graham at No. 5, acquiring extra picks, including the No. 36 pick this year and a first-round pick next year. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the Browns' opening round and tried to frame their decision to pass on Travis Hunter and trade down from Graham. They talk about the decision and what they think GM Andrew Berry's vision is with this trade. Then they look ahead to Friday and discuss what they think the Browns should do when they go on the clock. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:45:15
Who will win the QB job? + Denzel Ward's growth and Browns options at No. 2
4/23/2025
The Browns re-introduced Joe Flacco during a press conference on Wednesday, a day after the Browns offseason program began. Flacco will be part of a quarterback battle that includes Kenny Pickett and potentially a rookie. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discussed the coming quarterback battle and if Flacco starting at quarterback is a given. They also talk about the maturation of Denzel Ward and the leadership role he's taken on as he has become a veteran on the team. Then they wrap up by talking about Thursday's first round of the NFL Draft and the Browns' options at No. 2 overall and what they might do on Friday if they start the second round choosing between Shedeur Sanders and Jalen Milroe. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:43:10
Should the Browns trade the No. 2 overall pick?
4/22/2025
The rumors keep flying with draft day getting closer and the Browns are front-and-center with the No. 2 overall pick, especially after the Titans made it known they plan on making their pick at No. 1. A report on ESPN stated the Browns and Giants, who pick third, are getting calls for their picks and they aren't slamming down their phones, but does it mean either team would actually trade the pick? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked through the possibility of trading the No. 2 overall pick on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast and if they think it's something the Browns would actually do. They also talk about the No. 33 overall pick to start the night on Friday night and what the Browns could do with that pick. They wrap up the podcast by addressing linebacker Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah reporting for the first day of the team's voluntary offseason program on Tuesday and his future. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:31:32
Will the 2025 NFL Draft be transformational for the Browns? Hey, Mary Kay!
4/21/2025
Stop us if you've heard this before: this NFL Draft is super important for the Browns. Still, it is really important for the Browns, a team coming out of a failed attempt to go all-in and win a Super Bowl and trying to remake their roster on the fly. They hold five picks in the first 104 and four picks on the first two days of the draft, including Nos. 2 and 33 overall. Will this be a transformative draft? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe address that on Monday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They also talk about how the Browns will use Travis Hunter, how aggressive they should be in pursuing Jalen Milroe and how big of a priority replenishing the offensive line. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:39:51
NFL Draft defensive line preview + players the Browns have to take and a 7-round mock draft
4/18/2025
The Browns go on the clock in less than a week and currently hold 10 picks, representing an opportunity to infuse much-needed young talent on the roster. Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland join Dan Labbe for their final draft preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Their focus in this podcast is the defensive line and they start by letting Lance make his case for a guy that he likes at No. 2 overall. Then they go through their favorite edge rushers and defensive tackles before they each make a case for a player they believe the Browns should take. They wrap up the podcast with a 7-round Browns-only mock draft and then peek ahead to future drafts with players they've noticed while watching this year's prospects. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:01:48:08
Should the Browns bet on Jalen Milroe? + How they view Travis Hunter
4/17/2025
Browns GM Andrew Berry held his predraft media availability on Thursday and he spoke about Alabama quarterback Jalen Milroe in glowing terms. That's where Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start recapping their reaction to Berry's pre-draft availability on Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They also discuss what Berry had to say about likely No. 2 overall pick Travis Hunter and how the Browns plan to use him. Did anything change about their thoughts on what the Browns will do at No. 2? Could they consider trading out of the pick? Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:32:20
Is it better for the Browns to miss taking a quarterback or miss by passing on one?
4/16/2025
The Browns' decision at No. 2 overall in the NFL Draft is starting to become clear and it's starting to look like it won't be a quarterback. This begs the question about what's the worse outcome: taking a swing at quarterback and missing or not taking a swing and having that quarterback succeed elsewhere? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing that question. Which would be a worse outcome for the Browns when they do turn in that card on Thursday night of the draft? Then they take a peek at the second and third rounds of the draft and discuss the positions they would prioritize on Day 2 as a "must-fix" position. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Duration:00:36:24